Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 19:02:26 09/16/03
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On September 15, 2003 at 18:56:30, Mike Byrne wrote: >On September 15, 2003 at 09:11:25, emerson tan wrote: > >>I played a 24 game match between Shredder 6.02 and Hiarcs 7.32 with the >>following opening. >> >>1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Ng5 Ngf6 6.Bd3 e6 7.N1f3 h6 8.Nxe6 >> >>Time control was 40/4hrs + 20/2hrs + 2hrs to finish on a 1.8 Ghz processor. >> >>Shredder played all the white games and Hiracs all the black games. The score >>went 13-11 in Hiarcs favor. Only a couple of games were drawn. >> >>I choose Shredder 6.02 to have white because it likes whites position and >>without an opening book, it will play the 8.Nxe6 sacrifice. Also, Shredder has a >>positional learning. I choose Hiarcs for black solely because of its positional >>learning. Positional learning is important in this one opening match since it >>will be able to learn and improve its next play based on the same opening. >> >>Maybe 8.Nxe6 is not a forced win for white. Maybe Kasparov can study it and use >>it in some high profile match against computers since most of the programmers >>might put it in their books thinking its a forced win for white. > > >There is one hint that Joel Benjamin likes Nxe6 - since this move was not >calculated but in DB's opening book. Although not certain, I suspect to leave No it was not put in the book by Joel Benjamin. They had a big random book and this definitely was played out of a random book. No chance they could guess kasparov would play this line in caro-kann against them. Benjamins book was just 4000 moves. See Hsu's publication in Artificial Intelligence journal. With 4000 moves you can't even cover a few lines of the najdorf. Best regards, Vincent >this move in the opening book - they very much like the way DB played this from >the white side. As someone else mentione - top GM's are not playing h6. I read >(heard) somewhere that GK played h6 since Fritz never played Nxe6 against him. >Kudo's to the DB team for leaving this move in the book. I suspect if GK >thought this move (Nxe6) was in the opening book, he never would have played h6. > Do anyone believe GK would have played h6 against a top GM - not in my opinion. > Another example of GK changing his game, and perhaps too much, because he was >playing a computer. IMO, he would have much better and more interesting chess >if just played his usual game of attacking chess. The New York Times (May 13th >1997) said "The Chess litature has warned against that particular error (7.... >h6) since 1987 and everyone knows how to avoid it"
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