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Subject: Re: I am interested in your opinion about the following correspondence g

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 07:57:15 09/17/03

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On September 17, 2003 at 09:13:14, Joachim Rang wrote:

>Junior 8 is even more pessimistic:
>
>Turgut,T - Glazman,M
>5qk1/2p2np1/4p1r1/p1NpB1Pp/1Pb1pP1P/P3P3/3Q3R/4K3 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Junior 8:
>
>36.Lxc7 a4
>  ³  (-0.39)   Tiefe: 3   00:00:00
>36.Lxc7 e5
>  µ  (-0.92)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00  6kN
>36.Ld4 Db8 37.bxa5 Db5
>  =  (-0.24)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00  9kN
>36.Ld4 e5 37.Sd7 De7 38.Sxe5 Sxe5 39.Lxe5 Tb6 40.Lc3
>  µ  (-1.05)   Tiefe: 9   00:00:00  237kN
>36.Lxc7 e5 37.f5
>  µ  (-0.92)   Tiefe: 9   00:00:00  239kN
>36.Tf2 axb4 37.Dxb4 Sxe5 38.fxe5 De8 39.Tf4 Db5 40.Dxb5
>  µ  (-0.85)   Tiefe: 9   00:00:00  431kN
>36.Tf2 Sh6 37.Dd4 Sg4 38.Tc2 Sxe5 39.Dxe5 Dd6 40.Txc4 Dxe5 41.fxe5 dxc4 42.bxa5
>  ³  (-0.56)   Tiefe: 12   00:00:01  1393kN
>36.Tf2 Sh6 37.Dc3 Sg4 38.Tg2 axb4 39.axb4 Sxe5 40.Dxe5 Dd6 41.Da1 c6
>  µ  (-0.85)   Tiefe: 15   00:00:11  12845kN
>36.Lxc7 Dc8 37.Le5 Sxe5 38.fxe5 axb4 39.axb4 Db8 40.Dc3 Db5
>  ³  (-0.67)   Tiefe: 15   00:00:20  22836kN
>36.Lxc7 e5 37.f5 Tc6 38.Lxa5 Dc8 39.Df2 Sd6 40.f6 Sf7 41.Dg3 Txc5 42.bxc5 Dxc5
>  ³  (-0.54)   Tiefe: 17   00:01:31  100710kN
>36.Lxc7 e5 37.Dd1 Dc8 38.Dxh5 Df5 39.Lxe5 axb4 40.Ld4 bxa3 41.Dd1 a2 42.Da4 Dc8
>43.Txa2 Lxa2 44.Dxa2
>  ³  (-0.36)   Tiefe: 18   00:04:19  261071kN
>36.Lxc7 e5 37.f5 Tc6 38.Lxa5 Dc8 39.Tf2 Sd6 40.Dc3 Sxf5 41.Dxe5 Sxh4 42.De7 Sf3+
>43.Kd1 h4 44.Ld8 h3
>  ³  (-0.45)   Tiefe: 19   00:09:01  550848kN
>36.Lxc7 e5 37.Sd7 Dc8 38.Sxe5 Sxe5 39.Lxe5 Tc6 40.Dd1 Ld3 41.Lb2 axb4 42.axb4
>Db8 43.b5 Dxb5 44.Dxh5 Db4+ 45.Kd1
>  ³  (-0.32)   Tiefe: 20   00:25:47  1574311kN

I do not like the move Bxc7

It let black to play e5 and to free the rook.

I did not analyze the position enough to know but the question is if white can
in some way use the fact that the black rook can move and even sacrifice more
material to prevent the rook to move so white can win the game.

In that case programs may say -1 for white for a lot of time but white
can wi the game.

Here is another position that did not happen in the game

[D]r5k1/p1pp1rpp/b1n1p3/2P2q2/1P3P2/P1Q1P1P1/1B2NKB1/7R w - - 0 23 bm g4

programs like Nd4 with positive score at small depth and only after it fail low
they can find g4.


Uri




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