Author: Uri Blass
Date: 08:38:30 09/17/03
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On September 17, 2003 at 11:22:58, Drexel,Michael wrote: >On September 17, 2003 at 11:20:25, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On September 17, 2003 at 11:09:45, Anthony Cozzie wrote: >> >>>On September 17, 2003 at 11:04:12, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On September 17, 2003 at 10:50:59, Anthony Cozzie wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 17, 2003 at 10:11:12, Mihaly Szalai wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 O-O 8. c3 >>>>>>d5 9. exd5 e4 10. Ng5 Bg4 11. Qc2 Ne5 12. Nxe4 Nxe4 13. Qxe4 Bd6 14. d4 f5 15. >>>>>>Qc2 >>>>>> >>>>>>[D]r2q1rk1/2p3pp/p2b4/1p1Pnp2/3P2b1/1BP5/PPQ2PPP/RNB1R1K1 b - - 0 15 >>>>>> >>>>>>Chessprograms are strong in tactics (so they say...) >>>>>>How fast is your engine finding 15...Nf3+? >>>>>> >>>>>>Mihaly >>>>> >>>>>I should have known you wouldn't post an easy one ;) Zappa gets owned: >>>>>1... Ne5-g6 2. h2-h3 Bg4-h5 3. a2-a4 Ra8-b8 4. a4xb5 a6xb5 5. Ra1-a7 Rb8-b6 6. >>>>>Nb1-d2 Qd8-b8 7. Ra7-a1 Ng6-f4 8. Kg1xh2 >>>>> = (-1.47) Depth: 13/33 00:05:44.89 201714kN >>>>> >>>>>After forcing Nf3+ gxf3 Bxf3 Re5: >>>>>1... Bd6xe5 2. d4xe5 f5-f4 3. Qc2-d3 Qd8-g5 4. Kg1-f1 Bf3-g2 5. Kf1-e1 Qg5xe5 6. >>>>>Qd3-e2 Ra8-e8 7. d5-d6 Kg8-h8 8. Qe2xe5 Re8xe5 9. Ke1-d1 c7xd6 >>>>> = (-0.79) Depth: 12/26 00:00:51.70 30335kN >>>>> >>>>>So Zappa would probably play it at 14 ply, but with a very unconvincing score. >>>>>I'll restart the search and see if it can come up with something more promising >>>>>(its good to have two computers at work ;) >>>>> >>>>>anthony >>>> >>>>Are you sure that Bxf3 is the right move >>>> >>>>Fritz8 says Qh4 >>>>0.41/12 for white fail high at depth 13 >>>> >>>>I also do not understand Re5 when Qd3 seems to me better. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>gxf3 Bxf3 Re5 is what Zappa wants to play <shrug> >>> >>>anthony >> >>It seems that zappa is not materialistic enough. >> >>After gxf3 Qh4 it is a draw but movei needs some minutes to see a draw score >>and find it only at depth 12(the score drop from 2.49 at depth 11 to 0.00 at >>depth 12). >> >>Finding the draw score from the root position is a hard task and I need to >>improve my search to find it is a reasonable time. >> >>Uri > >Thats not a draw, Uri. >Look at my post. > >Michael It seems that you are right but a draw is a good reason to avoid the line with white because white wants to win. Uri
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