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Subject: Re: Which program is best at improving your play. (plays "instructively")

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 00:11:37 09/19/03

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On September 18, 2003 at 10:51:42, Jonas Soderberg wrote:

>Hi
>In my opinion there are several programs but for mainly two different purposes.
>
>1) Playing against
>Here I find Delfi and Rebel to be very attractive in playing style when you set
>the strength to a suitable ELO. They are playing rather realistic (human) even
>at my level ;-)
>

I dont agree at all. Delfi does dont play rather realistic human chess IMO.
Just tested it a bit. Delfi played with its own small book.

[Event "Blitz:10'+5""]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2003.09.19"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Drexel"]
[Black "Delfi 4.2 ELO_STRENGTH=1750"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D05"]
[PlyCount "37"]
[TimeControl "600+5"]

{64MB, Empty.ctg, ATHLON2000} 1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 c5 3. e3 Nc6 4. c3 e6 5. Nbd2 d5
6.Bd3 c4 7. Bc2 Bd6 8. e4 Nxe4 9. Nxe4 dxe4 10. Bxe4 Bd7 11. O-O O-O 12. Re1 Qb6
13. Ng5 h6 14. Nh7 Rfd8 15. Bxh6 gxh6 16. Qg4+ Kh8 17. Qh5 Nxd4 18. Qxh6 Nb5
19. Nf6# 1-0

I played the Colle because it is rather popular at this level.
1750 humans have already pretty much chess knowledge. I dont expect a 1750 in my
country to play 6...c4.
I also dont expect a 1750 to play moves like 12...Qb6 and especially 17...Nxd4
and finally it missed am mate in one.

Playing against Computers is definitely not a good way to improve your chess.

Of course you should use the top programs to test your openings.
However I would recommend to stop the game after 15-25 moves and to study the
moves (Look for improvements) rather than playing on.

Michael

>2) Studying the computer in enginemathes
>Most top engines and especially Junior 8 demonstrate the importance of
>initiative and I am sure that this has increased my own level of play. At least
>it has some what changed my view of the game. When looking at the eval of the
>top engines I find Hiarcs to be very solid whereas Fritz and others can be very
>strange?!
>
>/JonaS



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