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Subject: Re: Can Shredder7 or Hiarcs9 as White solve the position here?

Author: Thomas Mayer

Date: 08:09:13 09/21/03

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Hi Eran,

[D]3B4/1r2p3/r2p1p2/bkp1P1p1/1p1P1PPp/p1P4P/PP1K4/3B4 w - - 0 1

Quark on MP1800+ does the following:


------------ changing mode...
00:00:00  d->05   -7.00  d1a4!
00:00:00  d->05   -6.00  d1a4!!
00:00:00  d->05   -1.74  d1a4!!!
00:00:00  d->05  +0.19  d1a4 b5c4 a4b3 c4b5 c3c4 b5c6 b3a4 b7b5 c4b5 c6d5 b5a6
a5d8
00:00:00  d->06  +0.23  d1a4 b5a4 b2b3 a4b5 c3c4 b5c6 d4d5 c6d7 e5e6 d7e8 f4f5
a6a8 d2d3
00:00:00  d->07  +0.15  d1a4 b5a4 b2b3 a4b5 c3c4 b5c6 d4d5 c6d7 e5e6 d7d8 f4f5
a6a8 d2d3 d8e8 d8e7
00:00:00  d->08  +0.09  d1a4 b5a4 b2b3 a4b5 c3c4 b5c6 d4d5 c6d7 e5e6 d7d8 f4f5
b7b5 d2d3 d8e8 d3e4 a5c7 d3e4
00:00:00  d->09  +0.09  d1a4 b5a4 b2b3 a4b5 c3c4 b5c6 d4d5 c6d7 e5e6 d7d8 f4f5
b7b5 d2d3 d8e8 d3e3 a5c7 e3e4 a5c7
00:00:01  d->10   -0.07  d1a4 b5a4 b2b3 a4b5 c3c4 b5c6 d4d5 c6d7 e5e6 d7d8 f4f5
d8e8 d2d3 a5b6 d3e4 a6a8 e4d3 b7d7 d3e4
00:00:02  d->11   -0.07  d1a4 b5a4 b2b3 a4b5 c3c4 b5c6 d4d5 c6d7 e5e6 d7d8 f4f5
d8e8 d2d3 b7b5 d3e3 a5c7 e3e4 a6a8 e4d3 d8a5
00:00:04  d->12   -0.11  d1a4 b5a4 b2b3 a4b5 c3c4 b5c6 d4d5 c6d7 e5e6 d7d8 f4f5
a6a8 d2d3 a5b6 d3e4 b7b8 e4d3 d8c7 d3e4 b8h8 e4d3
00:00:11  d->13   -0.13  d1a4 b5a4 b2b3 a4b5 c3c4 b5c6 d4d5 c6d7 e5e6 d7d8 f4f5
a5c7 d2d3 d8e8 d3e3 a6a4 e3e4 a4a8 e4d3
00:00:24  d->14   -0.28  d1a4 b5a4 b2b3 a4b5 c3c4 b5c6 d4d5 c6d7 e5e6 d7d8 f4f5
d8c8 d2d3 b7b8 d3e4 a6a8 e4d3 c8b7 d3e4 b8h8 e4d3 a5b6 d3e4
00:00:47  d->15   -0.28  d1a4 b5a4 b2b3 a4b5 c3c4 b5c6 d4d5 c6d7 e5e6 d7d8 f4f5
d8c8 d2d3 b7b8 d3e4 a5c7 e4e3 c8b7 e3f3 a6a8 f3e4 b8h8 e4d3 c7d8
00:01:37  d->16   -0.31  d1a4 b5a4 b2b3 a4b5 c3c4 b5c6 d4d5 c6d7 e5e6 d7d8 f4f5
a6a8 d2d3 a5b6 d3e4 b7b8 e4d3 d8e8 d3e3 e8f8 e3e4 f8g7 e4d3 b8h8 d3e4

the small minus score is due to mobility -> Quark still scores the pieces in
such situations but no material. This is because some blocked situations can be
unblocked and that helps a bit... (Maybe I will change that anyway to a 0.00 in
the future...)

Another engine which should solve this is Patzer...

Greets, Thomas



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