Author: Brian Kostick
Date: 01:39:58 09/22/03
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On September 22, 2003 at 03:34:08, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>On September 22, 2003 at 03:14:26, Jouni Uski wrote:
>
>>When version 8 is in SSDF list at position 14, H9 seems to fighting about
>>position 1! May be only Shredder7.04 is better now. I am surprised, when I
>>excepted may be 50 points progress - Mark has get close to 100. Wow!
>>May be this is one of the biggest/ the biggest jump in top level ever...
>>
>>Jouni
>
>
> Hi Jouni
> No doubt: Hiarcs9 is much stronger than its predessor, but
> 100 Elo is a too high estimation in my opinion. That would
> be just crazy. Any evidence about your guess?
> Kurt
Hi Kurt and all,
There is little evidence for the statistical yet but given this particular
elo list:
THE SSDF RATING LIST 2003-07-06 92970 games played by 254 computers
Rating + - Games Won Oppo
------ --- --- ----- --- ----
1 Shredder 7.04 UCI 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2810 37 -34 465 76% 2607
2 Shredder 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2770 27 -25 801 70% 2622
3 Fritz 8.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2762 26 -25 821 68% 2627
4 Deep Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2761 28 -27 694 69% 2622
5 Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2742 30 -29 574 64% 2637
6 Shredder 6.0 Pad UCI 256MB Athlon 1200 2724 23 -22 991 63% 2634
7 Shredder 6.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2721 31 -30 547 62% 2632
8 Chess Tiger 15.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2720 26 -25 784 61% 2641
9 Shredder 7.0 UCI 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2717 46 -43 258 63% 2624
9 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 256MB Athlon 1200 2717 30 -30 557 61% 2638
11 Deep Fritz 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2715 30 -29 571 61% 2639
12 Gambit Tiger 2.0 256MB Athlon 1200 2712 29 -29 583 58% 2653
13 Junior 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2697 25 -25 761 55% 2663
14 Hiarcs 8.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2682 23 -23 952 53% 2659
and what I have collected in games I think 75 points is a likely reality even
though I was a doubter but several days ago. 100 points may be possible as the
engines learn file builds up and perhaps book learning would quiet some of my
concerns in that area. Not saying that I SHOULD have book concerns this version
but I have felt uneasy about this in past versions. I think it's going to be
interesting to watch this engine. I know, all talk, but I guess that's part of
the fun of new release :) BK
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