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Subject: Re: SSDF(Gandalf 5 - Junior 8)A1200, 2.5-2.5, now 5.5-9.5

Author: George Tsavdaris

Date: 02:31:45 09/22/03

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On September 22, 2003 at 04:52:17, Tony Hedlund wrote:

>Why can't J8 win game 11?
>
In my computer playing with Deep Junior 8 from the following position
DJ8 made the same moves like in the game with Gandalf and draw. After playing
again from the following position, it didn't played so stupidly and won.
I'm confused. Perhaps it's position learning that made this, but anyway
there is a bug in DJ8 regarding this position.

My opinion is that in such games the final result must be set by the operator.
And in this case you have to set the result as a White WIN(1-0).
If Gandalf 5.0 had the resign option enabled then the score would be 1-0.
It's a pity that DJ8 outplayed Gandalf 5.0 and due to a bug he had only a draw.

[D]2b1B1k1/7p/4pRpP/p3Q3/P2P1R2/1q4P1/8/3K4 w - - 0 42

>[Event "SSDF"]
>[Site "Tony Hedlund"]
>[Date "2003.09.20"]
>[Round "11"]
>[White "Junior 8 A1200"]
>[Black "Gandalf 5 A1200"]
>[BlackElo "2642"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>[ECO "C11"]
>
>{Engine book(s): dbchs.dat userbook.dat}
>1. e4 e6 { Score: 0,00   depth: 1 e6 } 2. d4 d5 { Score: 0,00   depth: 1 d5 }
>3. Nc3 Nf6 { Score: 0,00   depth: 1 Nf6 } 4. e5 Nfd7 { Score: 0,00   depth: 1
>Nfd7 } 5. f4 c5 { Score: 0,00   depth: 1 c5 } 6. Nf3 Nc6 { Score: 0,00   depth:
>1
>Nc6 } 7. Be3 cxd4 { Score: 0,00   depth: 1 cxd4 } 8. Nxd4 Bc5 { Score: 0,00
>depth: 1 Bc5 } 9. Qd2 O-O { Score: 0,00   depth: 1 O-O } 10. O-O-O a6 { Score:
>0,00   depth: 1 a6 } 11. h4 Nxd4 { Score: 0,00   depth: 1 Nxd4 } 12. Bxd4 b5 {
>Score: 0,00   depth: 1 b5 } 13. Kb1 Bb7 { Score: 0,08   depth: 12 Bb7 h5 Bxd4
>Qxd4 f6 exf6 Qxf6 g3 Qxd4 Rxd4 Nc5 Bh3 Rf6 Re1 Raf8 } 14. h5 Bxd4 { Score: 0,00
>  depth: 12 Bxd4 Qxd4 f6 exf6 Rxf6 g3 Qb6 Bh3 Nc5 g4 b4 Ne2 a5 f5 } 15. Qxd4
>f6 { Score: -0,04   depth: 12 f6 exf6 Rxf6 g3 Rc8 Ne4 dxe4 Qxd7 Qxd7 Rxd7 Bc6
>Ra7 e3 Rh2 e5 } 16. h6 fxe5 { Score: 0,20   depth: 12 fxe5 fxe5 g6 g3 Qc7 Bh3
>Rae8 Rhe1 Qc4 Qe3 Qc5 Rd4 a5 } 17. fxe5 g6 { Score: 0,27   depth: 13 g6 g3 Rc8
>Bh3 Re8 Qf4 Rc4 Rd4 Qb6 Rxc4 bxc4 Bg4 Rf8 Qg5 } 18. g3 Rc8 { Score: 0,24
>depth: 12 Rc8 Bh3 Re8 Rhf1 Rc4 Qf2 Qe7 Qa7 Nc5 Qb6 b4 Ne2 } 19. Bh3 Qe7 {
>Score: -0,17   depth: 13 Qe7 Rhf1 Rfe8 Ne2 Rc4 Qa7 Nc5 Rf6 Qc7 Nf4 Qxe5 Bxe6+
>Nxe6 Rxe6 Rxe6 Nxe6 } 20. Rhf1 Rc4 { Score: -0,28   depth: 11 Rc4 Qa7 Bc8 Ne2
>Re8 Nd4 Nxe5 Qxe7 Rxe7 Rfe1 Nf7 Bxe6 Bxe6 Rxe6 Rxe6 Nxe6 } 21. Qa7 Rc7 { Score:
>-0,57   depth: 13 Rc7 Ne2 Re8 Nd4 Qc5 Qxc5 Nxc5 b4 Ne4 Bxe6+ Kh8 Ne2 Rc4 Bxd5
>Bxd5 Rxd5 Rxb4+ Kc1 } 22. Ne2 Re8 { Score: -0,73   depth: 13 Re8 Nd4 Qc5 Qxc5
>Nxc5 b4 Ne4 Bxe6+ Kh8 Ne2 Rce7 Bxd5 Bxd5 Rxd5 Kg8 a4 bxa4 } 23. Qe3 Rc6 {
>Score: -0,81   depth: 12 Rc6 Rf4 Rb6 Rdf1 a5 Nd4 Ba6 R1f3 b4 Rf7 Qxf7 Rxf7
>Kxf7 Qg5 } 24. Rf4 a5 { Score: -0,94   depth: 12 a5 Nd4 Rb6 Rdf1 Bc8 Qf2 Qd8
>Rf7 Nxe5 } 25. Nd4 Rb6 { Score: -1,72   depth: 15 Rb6 Rdf1 Bc8 Rf6 Nxf6 exf6
>Qf7 Nf3 e5 Qxb6 Bxh3 Ng5 Bxf1 Nxf7 Kxf7 Qa7+ Ke6 Qxh7 Kxf6 Qg7+ Kf5 } 26. Rdf1
>Bc8 { Score: -2,32   depth: 14 Bc8 Rf6 Nxf6 exf6 Qf7 Nf3 e5 Qxb6 Bxh3 Ng5
>Bxf1 Nxf7 Kxf7 Qd6 Bh3 Qxd5+ Kxf6 Qc6+ Re6 Qxb5 } 27. Qc3 Nxe5 { Score: -1,48
>depth: 12 Nxe5 Nxb5 Rxb5 Qxe5 Rb7 R1f3 a4 Rxa4 Qc7 Qf6 Qf7 Ra8 Qxf6 Rxf6 }
>28. Nxb5 Rxb5 { Score: -1,55   depth: 11 Rxb5 Qxe5 Rb7 c4 dxc4 Rxc4 Bd7 Rd4
>Bb5 Rff4 Rb6 Bg4 } 29. Qxe5 Rb7 { Score: -1,52   depth: 12 Rb7 c4 dxc4 Rxc4 Bd7
>Rd4 a4 Rd6 Rc7 Bg4 Rb7 Rf2 a3 } 30. Rf6 Ra7 { Score: -1,39   depth: 11 Ra7 Kc1
>Rb7 R1f3 Rc7 Ra3 a4 Rxa4 Qc5 c3 Rce7 } 31. a4 Rb7 { Score: -1,87   depth: 12
>Rb7 Re1 Rb6 Qc3 d4 Qxd4 Rd6 Bxe6+ Bxe6 Rfxe6 Rxd4 Rxe7 Rxe7 Rxe7 Rxa4 Rg7+
>Kh8 } 32. R1f4 Rc7 { Score: -3,00   depth: 13 Rc7 Bxe6+ Bxe6 Rxe6 Qxe6 Qxc7
>Qe1+ Ka2 Re7 Qd8+ Re8 Qxd5+ Qe6 Rd4 Kf8 c4 Qxd5 Rxd5 Re3 Rxa5 Rxg3 b4 } 33. Bf1
>d4 { Score: -2,64   depth: 12 d4 Bc4 d3 cxd3 Ra7 Rg4 Qb7 Bxe6+ Bxe6 Rxe6 Rxe6
>Qxe6+ Qf7 Qc8+ Qf8 Qc4+ Rf7 Rf4 } 34. Bc4 d3 { Score: -2,64   depth: 10 d3 cxd3
>Ra7 Rg4 Qb7 Bxe6+ Bxe6 Rxe6 Rxe6 Qxe6+ Qf7 Qc8+ Qf8 Qc4+ Rf7 Rf4 } 35. cxd3
>Rb7 { Score: -4,84   depth: 11 Rb7 } 36. d4 Qb4 { Score: -10,27   depth: 10 Qb4
>d5 Rd8 Bb5 Ra7 Rxb4 axb4 Rf4 exd5 Qf6 Rad7 Bxd7 Rxd7 Rxb4 } 37. Bb5 Qe7 {
>Score: -14,09   depth: 10 Qe7 d5 exd5 Bxe8 Bf5+ R4xf5 gxf5 Bf7+ Qxf7 Rxf7
>Kxf7 Qxf5+ Ke8 Qc8+ Ke7 Qxb7+ Ke6 Qxh7 } 38. Bxe8 Rxb2+ { Score: -17,16
>depth: 9 Rxb2+ Kxb2 Qb4+ Kc2 Qc4+ Kd2 Qa2+ Ke3 Qa3+ Kf2 Qb2+ Qe2 Qb4 Rxe6 Bd7
>Bxd7 } 39. Kxb2 Qb4+ { Score: -Mate in 10   depth: 12 Qb4+ Kc2 Qc4+ Kd2 Qa2+
>Ke3 Qa3+ Kf2 Qb2+ Kg1 Qc1+ Kh2 Qh1+ Kxh1 Bb7+ Kh2 g5 Rf8# } 40. Kc1 Qc3+ {
>Score: -Mate in 10   depth: 11 Qc3+ Kd1 Qd3+ Ke1 Qxg3+ Ke2 Qh2+ Rf2 Qxh6 Bf7+
>Kf8 Bxe6+ Ke7 Bxc8+ Kd8 Rf8+ Qxf8 Rxf8# } 41. Kd1 Qb3+ { Score: -Mate in 9
>depth: 10 Qb3+ Ke1 Qxg3+ Ke2 Qh2+ Rf2 Qxh6 Bf7# } 42. Ke2 Qc2+ { Score: -Mate
>in 8   depth: 11 Qc2+ Kf3 Bb7+ Kg4 Qd1+ Rf3 Bxf3+ Rxf3 Qxf3+ Kxf3 Kf8 Qxe6 g5
>Qf7# } 43. Kf1 Qb1+ { Score: -Mate in 7   depth: 10 Qb1+ Kf2 Qb2+ Kg1 Qc1+ Kh2
>Qd2+ Kh3 Qxf4 Rxf4 g5 Qg7# } 44. Kf2 Qb2+ { Score: -Mate in 6   depth: 9 Qb2+
>Kg1 Qc1+ Kh2 Qd2+ Kh3 Qxf4 Rxf4 g5 Qg7# } 45. Kg1 Qc1+ { Score: -Mate in 5
>depth: 10 Qc1+ Kh2 Qd2+ Kh3 Qxf4 Rxf4 g5 Qg7# } 46. Kf2 Qb2+ { Score: 0,00
>depth: 21 Qb2+ } 47. Ke1 Qc1+ { Score: 0,00   depth: 18 Qc1+ Kf2 } 48. Kf2 Qb2+
>{
>Score: 0,00   depth: 19 Qb2+ } 1/2-1/2



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