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Subject: Re: Ooops. Forgot one...

Author: enrico carrisco

Date: 03:20:08 09/22/03

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On September 22, 2003 at 04:22:56, Andrew Williams wrote:

>On September 21, 2003 at 18:47:40, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On September 21, 2003 at 17:05:40, Andrew Williams wrote:
>>
>>>On September 21, 2003 at 16:51:19, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 21, 2003 at 16:46:27, Edward Seid wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I just wondered if there was a specific situation that occurred that caused >this rule to be implemented.  Like who was involved and what happened.
>>>>
>>>>There were several accusations in the past tournament about
>>>>people overruling moves from their engines. At least one of the
>>>>people involved later admitted he manually interfered with the
>>>>time usage of the engine.
>>>>
>>>>PS. I don't think the current rules actually prevent this
>>>>either, which is why I'm not so hot about online tournaments.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Hi GCP,
>>>
>>>I agree that it's still possible to interfere, but it just makes it more
>>>difficult, which is the point, IMHO. Perhaps as a professional it's not
>>>"watertight" enough, but for the amateurs I think it is sufficient.
>>>
>>>Andrew
>>
>>The main problem was the fear that non programmers will participate.
>>This was the reason for the duty to kibitz.
>>
>>The fear that programmers will change the time management or the move of the
>>program is not the big problem because I think that in a lot of cases it is not
>>going to be productive.
>>
>>Personally I prefer to have a tournament when the programmers have the right to
>>change the move or the time management of the program but in case that they do
>>it the program needs to kibitz information about it.
>>
>>I think that it is going to be more interesting.
>>
>
>I really don't agree with this. I'm sure there is room for such a tournament,
>but CCT was originally designed as an online tournament for chess programs. Not
>for chess program + programmer intervention. That's a different sort of
>tournament.
>
>Andrew

CCT is far from what is was originally designed for at this point (IMHO.)  It
was originally a friendly tournament where programmers can meet one another and
converse while their programs perform.

Now it is full of paranoia and 22.5 rules of engagement -- some acting like it
is Paderborn or WCCC.  What happened to just having a good time without all of
the stress, conviction and stuffy guidelines?  Save that crap for the official
tournaments.  I'm just wating for the CCT entry fee next...

-elc.



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