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Subject: Re: CCT: why this rule?

Author: Sune Fischer

Date: 03:28:34 09/22/03

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On September 22, 2003 at 06:05:58, Grzegorz Sidorowicz wrote:

>On September 22, 2003 at 05:15:44, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On September 22, 2003 at 04:55:21, Grzegorz Sidorowicz wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>>Majority institute justice.
>>>>>In my opinion stupid justice becaue now we can play CCT tournament
>>>>>in our home on our computers. Ferret, Commet, Quark aren't problems, beacuse
>>>>>we can easy find freeware strong programs as Crafty, Ruffian and Yace.
>>>>
>>>>By that logic commercial are also no problem because we can buy them and play at
>>>>home against them.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>
>>>That's right!
>>>If we have got commercial programs we can easy create much more
>>>interesting tournament at home!
>>>
>>>Grzegorz
>>1)I think that most of us have at least one commercial program
>>2)I am interested only in games of my program in a tournament and the free
>>programs are strong enough so I do not need the commercial programs for testing
>
>We must answer on question: Why we want play in this tournament?
>I want play in any tournament if it is a big event.
>Big tournament is for me tournament in Paderborn,

It's not "big", it's "exclusive".
Exclusive in you must be there, you must bring you own hardware, probably you
must speak german too to not feel left out.

And you think _kibitzing_ is a tough demand??

>World Computer Chess Championship, my own country championship and some
>others. Unfortunately travel to Paderborn or Mastricht is for me too
>expensive. CCT is not expensive but without big players it is not big
>tournament. Currently this tournament is important because it is event
>where we can meet many players....many interesting players. It is OK.
>But why this tournament can't be better?
>I don't understand why people without wb support/UCI/blablabla can't play?
>Why???
>I must ask because people without wb support/UCI/blablabla will not ask.

Doesn't matter to me very much whether the commercials is there, the tournament
is so huge already. Not kibitzing would take some of the fun out of it for me,
no question.
You have just two dumb machines making moves now, you don't who is winning or if
one engine sees a clear advantage.
Pretty boring just sitting there waiting for the end.

>This people will not play.
>We can create tournament with many limitation: for PC, for English speakers,
>for comercial, for private but it will not the same big tournament.
>We can expect kibitz information from wb engines but not from others.
>It is not easy for all. I can create wbsupport in 10 minutes but many
>many people can't do it.
>For me every player is important! We can't see others players as swindlers.
>We can expect after each game log from program if we afraid any swinlers.
>Why this tournament is not for all?

Wouldn't it be better if they implemented this feature into their GUI than for
us to change the rules?
It's a must-have feature anyway, we'd be doing them a favor :)

-S.

>Grzegorz



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