Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 09:24:08 09/22/03
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On September 22, 2003 at 10:31:53, Uri Blass wrote: >On September 22, 2003 at 08:46:18, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On September 21, 2003 at 22:10:52, Dave Gomboc wrote: >> >>>On September 21, 2003 at 20:04:21, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> >>>>On September 20, 2003 at 16:12:18, Dave Gomboc wrote: >>>> >>>>no way they could predict he would go caro-kann, so the statistical chance in a >>>>4000 move book this line was there till nxe6 is like zero. >>> >>>The GMs doing DB's opening tuning had that position up and running on DB -- >>>briefly -- as they were booking it up. It could be that they saw it would play >>>Nxe6 out of the extended book, saw that it liked its position as White there, >>>and left it alone. Whether it was in the small book or the extended book, the >>>important thing is that DB was comfortable playing Nxe6 on its own, and they let >>>it do so. >>> >>>Dave >> >>That's just another BS marketing story which is not true. >> >>Just like the marketing story that in a 12 stone double rook endgame deep blue >>managed to keep a draw because every move was perfectly played thanks to an >>incredible big endgamedatabase. >> >>In fact marketing department said something even more overreacted, 30 seconds >>after the game had ended in a draw. >> >>It's here just like that too. >> >>Those GMs didn't even have the time to prepare caro-kann further than move 5, >>let me assure you that. >> >>4000 bookmoves that's something very very tiny! >> >>Also you enter 4000 bookmoves eyes closed in 8 days. >> >>Kure told he usually enters around 2000 bookmoves an hour. >If your claims is correct then it means that he cannot have a good book. >You cannot be sure of no errors with 2000 moves per hour. That means still those moves are better than the hand entered moves back in 97 by an old dusty GM. If i read books of those guys i see 7 ply mistakes in their analysis. So imagine the DB book :) Not many 7 ply mistakes in kure's book :) Note this is true for Noomen, Necchi etc. There is many 7 ply mistakes in Pesce though. Let testers use the shredder7 book and line up ruffian + shredder7 book versus fritz using shredder7 book and use decent hardware at a DECENT time control. So not 1 hour a game. But something like 60 in 2 + 30 a game. Be sure in df7 in case that engine plays, to put it at processors = 1. Be sure to give the ruffian engine a higher priority otherwise interface of chessbase will eat 5% system time or so, give ruffian 45% and give fritz 50% (in case a dual gets used to play). 10 games will do. I bet on ruffian. Best regards, Vincent
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