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Subject: Re: SSDF(Gandalf 5 - Junior 8)A1200, 2.5-2.5, now 5.5-9.5

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 09:44:17 09/22/03

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On September 22, 2003 at 04:52:17, Tony Hedlund wrote:

>Why can't J8 win game 11?


Probably a bug, see my Junior 8 output:
[D]2b1B1k1/7p/4pRpP/p3Q3/P2P1R2/6P1/8/2q3K1 w - - 0 45

Analysis by Junior 8 (depth=3, engine stopped itself):

1. +- (#5): 46.Kh2 Dd2+
2. +- (#6): 46.Tf1 Dxh6
3. +- (16.42): 46.Kg2 Lb7+
4. +- (1.91): 46.De1 Dxe1+ 47.Kh2 Lb7
5. = (0.00): 46.Kf2 Db2+


Again it opens the question in how many games such "wrong" results appear and
falsify the results and rating?


>[Event "SSDF"]
>[Site "Tony Hedlund"]
>[Date "2003.09.20"]
>[Round "11"]
>[White "Junior 8 A1200"]
>[Black "Gandalf 5 A1200"]
>[BlackElo "2642"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>[ECO "C11"]
>
>{Engine book(s): dbchs.dat userbook.dat}
>1. e4 e6 { Score: 0,00   depth: 1 e6 } 2. d4 d5 { Score: 0,00   depth: 1 d5 }
>3. Nc3 Nf6 { Score: 0,00   depth: 1 Nf6 } 4. e5 Nfd7 { Score: 0,00   depth: 1
>Nfd7 } 5. f4 c5 { Score: 0,00   depth: 1 c5 } 6. Nf3 Nc6 { Score: 0,00   depth:
>1
>Nc6 } 7. Be3 cxd4 { Score: 0,00   depth: 1 cxd4 } 8. Nxd4 Bc5 { Score: 0,00
>depth: 1 Bc5 } 9. Qd2 O-O { Score: 0,00   depth: 1 O-O } 10. O-O-O a6 { Score:
>0,00   depth: 1 a6 } 11. h4 Nxd4 { Score: 0,00   depth: 1 Nxd4 } 12. Bxd4 b5 {
>Score: 0,00   depth: 1 b5 } 13. Kb1 Bb7 { Score: 0,08   depth: 12 Bb7 h5 Bxd4
>Qxd4 f6 exf6 Qxf6 g3 Qxd4 Rxd4 Nc5 Bh3 Rf6 Re1 Raf8 } 14. h5 Bxd4 { Score: 0,00
>  depth: 12 Bxd4 Qxd4 f6 exf6 Rxf6 g3 Qb6 Bh3 Nc5 g4 b4 Ne2 a5 f5 } 15. Qxd4
>f6 { Score: -0,04   depth: 12 f6 exf6 Rxf6 g3 Rc8 Ne4 dxe4 Qxd7 Qxd7 Rxd7 Bc6
>Ra7 e3 Rh2 e5 } 16. h6 fxe5 { Score: 0,20   depth: 12 fxe5 fxe5 g6 g3 Qc7 Bh3
>Rae8 Rhe1 Qc4 Qe3 Qc5 Rd4 a5 } 17. fxe5 g6 { Score: 0,27   depth: 13 g6 g3 Rc8
>Bh3 Re8 Qf4 Rc4 Rd4 Qb6 Rxc4 bxc4 Bg4 Rf8 Qg5 } 18. g3 Rc8 { Score: 0,24
>depth: 12 Rc8 Bh3 Re8 Rhf1 Rc4 Qf2 Qe7 Qa7 Nc5 Qb6 b4 Ne2 } 19. Bh3 Qe7 {
>Score: -0,17   depth: 13 Qe7 Rhf1 Rfe8 Ne2 Rc4 Qa7 Nc5 Rf6 Qc7 Nf4 Qxe5 Bxe6+
>Nxe6 Rxe6 Rxe6 Nxe6 } 20. Rhf1 Rc4 { Score: -0,28   depth: 11 Rc4 Qa7 Bc8 Ne2
>Re8 Nd4 Nxe5 Qxe7 Rxe7 Rfe1 Nf7 Bxe6 Bxe6 Rxe6 Rxe6 Nxe6 } 21. Qa7 Rc7 { Score:
>-0,57   depth: 13 Rc7 Ne2 Re8 Nd4 Qc5 Qxc5 Nxc5 b4 Ne4 Bxe6+ Kh8 Ne2 Rc4 Bxd5
>Bxd5 Rxd5 Rxb4+ Kc1 } 22. Ne2 Re8 { Score: -0,73   depth: 13 Re8 Nd4 Qc5 Qxc5
>Nxc5 b4 Ne4 Bxe6+ Kh8 Ne2 Rce7 Bxd5 Bxd5 Rxd5 Kg8 a4 bxa4 } 23. Qe3 Rc6 {
>Score: -0,81   depth: 12 Rc6 Rf4 Rb6 Rdf1 a5 Nd4 Ba6 R1f3 b4 Rf7 Qxf7 Rxf7
>Kxf7 Qg5 } 24. Rf4 a5 { Score: -0,94   depth: 12 a5 Nd4 Rb6 Rdf1 Bc8 Qf2 Qd8
>Rf7 Nxe5 } 25. Nd4 Rb6 { Score: -1,72   depth: 15 Rb6 Rdf1 Bc8 Rf6 Nxf6 exf6
>Qf7 Nf3 e5 Qxb6 Bxh3 Ng5 Bxf1 Nxf7 Kxf7 Qa7+ Ke6 Qxh7 Kxf6 Qg7+ Kf5 } 26. Rdf1
>Bc8 { Score: -2,32   depth: 14 Bc8 Rf6 Nxf6 exf6 Qf7 Nf3 e5 Qxb6 Bxh3 Ng5
>Bxf1 Nxf7 Kxf7 Qd6 Bh3 Qxd5+ Kxf6 Qc6+ Re6 Qxb5 } 27. Qc3 Nxe5 { Score: -1,48
>depth: 12 Nxe5 Nxb5 Rxb5 Qxe5 Rb7 R1f3 a4 Rxa4 Qc7 Qf6 Qf7 Ra8 Qxf6 Rxf6 }
>28. Nxb5 Rxb5 { Score: -1,55   depth: 11 Rxb5 Qxe5 Rb7 c4 dxc4 Rxc4 Bd7 Rd4
>Bb5 Rff4 Rb6 Bg4 } 29. Qxe5 Rb7 { Score: -1,52   depth: 12 Rb7 c4 dxc4 Rxc4 Bd7
>Rd4 a4 Rd6 Rc7 Bg4 Rb7 Rf2 a3 } 30. Rf6 Ra7 { Score: -1,39   depth: 11 Ra7 Kc1
>Rb7 R1f3 Rc7 Ra3 a4 Rxa4 Qc5 c3 Rce7 } 31. a4 Rb7 { Score: -1,87   depth: 12
>Rb7 Re1 Rb6 Qc3 d4 Qxd4 Rd6 Bxe6+ Bxe6 Rfxe6 Rxd4 Rxe7 Rxe7 Rxe7 Rxa4 Rg7+
>Kh8 } 32. R1f4 Rc7 { Score: -3,00   depth: 13 Rc7 Bxe6+ Bxe6 Rxe6 Qxe6 Qxc7
>Qe1+ Ka2 Re7 Qd8+ Re8 Qxd5+ Qe6 Rd4 Kf8 c4 Qxd5 Rxd5 Re3 Rxa5 Rxg3 b4 } 33. Bf1
>d4 { Score: -2,64   depth: 12 d4 Bc4 d3 cxd3 Ra7 Rg4 Qb7 Bxe6+ Bxe6 Rxe6 Rxe6
>Qxe6+ Qf7 Qc8+ Qf8 Qc4+ Rf7 Rf4 } 34. Bc4 d3 { Score: -2,64   depth: 10 d3 cxd3
>Ra7 Rg4 Qb7 Bxe6+ Bxe6 Rxe6 Rxe6 Qxe6+ Qf7 Qc8+ Qf8 Qc4+ Rf7 Rf4 } 35. cxd3
>Rb7 { Score: -4,84   depth: 11 Rb7 } 36. d4 Qb4 { Score: -10,27   depth: 10 Qb4
>d5 Rd8 Bb5 Ra7 Rxb4 axb4 Rf4 exd5 Qf6 Rad7 Bxd7 Rxd7 Rxb4 } 37. Bb5 Qe7 {
>Score: -14,09   depth: 10 Qe7 d5 exd5 Bxe8 Bf5+ R4xf5 gxf5 Bf7+ Qxf7 Rxf7
>Kxf7 Qxf5+ Ke8 Qc8+ Ke7 Qxb7+ Ke6 Qxh7 } 38. Bxe8 Rxb2+ { Score: -17,16
>depth: 9 Rxb2+ Kxb2 Qb4+ Kc2 Qc4+ Kd2 Qa2+ Ke3 Qa3+ Kf2 Qb2+ Qe2 Qb4 Rxe6 Bd7
>Bxd7 } 39. Kxb2 Qb4+ { Score: -Mate in 10   depth: 12 Qb4+ Kc2 Qc4+ Kd2 Qa2+
>Ke3 Qa3+ Kf2 Qb2+ Kg1 Qc1+ Kh2 Qh1+ Kxh1 Bb7+ Kh2 g5 Rf8# } 40. Kc1 Qc3+ {
>Score: -Mate in 10   depth: 11 Qc3+ Kd1 Qd3+ Ke1 Qxg3+ Ke2 Qh2+ Rf2 Qxh6 Bf7+
>Kf8 Bxe6+ Ke7 Bxc8+ Kd8 Rf8+ Qxf8 Rxf8# } 41. Kd1 Qb3+ { Score: -Mate in 9
>depth: 10 Qb3+ Ke1 Qxg3+ Ke2 Qh2+ Rf2 Qxh6 Bf7# } 42. Ke2 Qc2+ { Score: -Mate
>in 8   depth: 11 Qc2+ Kf3 Bb7+ Kg4 Qd1+ Rf3 Bxf3+ Rxf3 Qxf3+ Kxf3 Kf8 Qxe6 g5
>Qf7# } 43. Kf1 Qb1+ { Score: -Mate in 7   depth: 10 Qb1+ Kf2 Qb2+ Kg1 Qc1+ Kh2
>Qd2+ Kh3 Qxf4 Rxf4 g5 Qg7# } 44. Kf2 Qb2+ { Score: -Mate in 6   depth: 9 Qb2+
>Kg1 Qc1+ Kh2 Qd2+ Kh3 Qxf4 Rxf4 g5 Qg7# } 45. Kg1 Qc1+ { Score: -Mate in 5
>depth: 10 Qc1+ Kh2 Qd2+ Kh3 Qxf4 Rxf4 g5 Qg7# } 46. Kf2 Qb2+ { Score: 0,00
>depth: 21 Qb2+ } 47. Ke1 Qc1+ { Score: 0,00   depth: 18 Qc1+ Kf2 } 48. Kf2 Qb2+
>{
>Score: 0,00   depth: 19 Qb2+ } 1/2-1/2
>
>
>Tony



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