Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 10:26:11 09/22/03
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On September 22, 2003 at 12:24:08, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On September 22, 2003 at 10:31:53, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On September 22, 2003 at 08:46:18, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On September 21, 2003 at 22:10:52, Dave Gomboc wrote: >>> >>>>On September 21, 2003 at 20:04:21, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 20, 2003 at 16:12:18, Dave Gomboc wrote: >>>>> >>>>>no way they could predict he would go caro-kann, so the statistical chance in a >>>>>4000 move book this line was there till nxe6 is like zero. >>>> >>>>The GMs doing DB's opening tuning had that position up and running on DB -- >>>>briefly -- as they were booking it up. It could be that they saw it would play >>>>Nxe6 out of the extended book, saw that it liked its position as White there, >>>>and left it alone. Whether it was in the small book or the extended book, the >>>>important thing is that DB was comfortable playing Nxe6 on its own, and they let >>>>it do so. >>>> >>>>Dave >>> >>>That's just another BS marketing story which is not true. >>> >>>Just like the marketing story that in a 12 stone double rook endgame deep blue >>>managed to keep a draw because every move was perfectly played thanks to an >>>incredible big endgamedatabase. >>> >>>In fact marketing department said something even more overreacted, 30 seconds >>>after the game had ended in a draw. >>> >>>It's here just like that too. >>> >>>Those GMs didn't even have the time to prepare caro-kann further than move 5, >>>let me assure you that. >>> >>>4000 bookmoves that's something very very tiny! >>> >>>Also you enter 4000 bookmoves eyes closed in 8 days. >>> >>>Kure told he usually enters around 2000 bookmoves an hour. > >>If your claims is correct then it means that he cannot have a good book. >>You cannot be sure of no errors with 2000 moves per hour. > >That means still those moves are better than the hand entered moves back in 97 >by an old dusty GM. > >If i read books of those guys i see 7 ply mistakes in their analysis. > >So imagine the DB book :) > >Not many 7 ply mistakes in kure's book :) If Alex does as you claim, there will be _plenty_ of errors. He has to type one move every two seconds, with +zero+ time for analysis. At that typing rate, I'll bet most any amount of money you want that the book won't even +parse+ cleanly, due to either his typos or typos in the analysis he is typing madly... Your math just doesn't stand up to even simple scrutiny. > >Note this is true for Noomen, Necchi etc. > >There is many 7 ply mistakes in Pesce though. > >Let testers use the shredder7 book and line up ruffian + shredder7 book versus >fritz using shredder7 book and use decent hardware at a DECENT time control. >So not 1 hour a game. But something like 60 in 2 + 30 a game. Be sure in df7 in >case that engine plays, to put it at processors = 1. Be sure to give the ruffian >engine a higher priority otherwise interface of chessbase will eat 5% system >time or so, give ruffian 45% and give fritz 50% (in case a dual gets used to >play). > >10 games will do. > >I bet on ruffian. > >Best regards, >Vincent
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