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Subject: Re: ordering the new fx-51

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 16:51:17 09/23/03

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On September 23, 2003 at 16:41:14, Will Singleton wrote:

>I've found a couple of places, namely Monarch and Alienware.  Appreciate
>feedback on these or other vendors.  Looking for a built-to-order system.
>
>Incidentally, I haven't seen the new extreme P4 available anywhere.
>
>Will

Forget the Intel P4 Extreme Emergency chips.

they're in reality overclocked Xeon MP's which happen to clock to 3.2 and
3.4Ghz.

I would be really amazed if they're in the shops for decent prices any soon.

In theory intel could do it, but i doubt they will.

If they press a few pallets with cpu's i bet only a few will do 3.4Ghz + 3 MB
L3.

Further see how A64 single cpu completely annihilated them.

1 cpu A64 2.4Ghz     : 149k nps
1 cpu P4 3.4Ghz EE   : 100k nps

Only when you run diep dual it's a bit faster than 100k nps at the P4.

Is that a fair compare?

I bet not.

Parallel loss etc, you should count that too, to start with!

DIEP is 100% same speed at the P4 3.4Ghz EE chips like the P4 3.4Ghz C chips.
L3 cache doesn't impress much with just 350MB hashtable already.

The reason for that emergency solution of intel is very clear. They wanted to
get a few % faster in a few games tested by Johan de Gelas.

Best regards,
Vincent



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