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Subject: Re: positions to search deep for hours at 500 cpu's - TRY THESE

Author: Tord Romstad

Date: 03:46:24 09/24/03

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On September 21, 2003 at 05:58:50, emerson tan wrote:


>The next Diagram was mentioned in Kasparov's My Predesessors, Kasparov said no
>computer can find the move here.
>
>
>[D]2r2rk1/pp3pp1/4bb1p/q2p1P1Q/3P4/2N5/PP4PP/1K1R1B1R b - - 0 17
>
>Pillsbury - Lasker 1896
>
>Key move 17 - Rxc3!!

It is always very dangerous to make statements like "no computer can
find the move here".  In this particular position, I would guess that
a lot of programs find the right move quickly (though they will
probably not return a winning score).  The amount of sacrificed material
is modest, and it is clear that black gets good attacking chances.

My own program plays Rxc3 at ply 4, after just a fraction of a second:

 1        0.58     0.00        291 e6d7
 2        0.25     0.01        922 e6d7 b1a1
 3        0.48     0.03       2823 e6d7 g2g4 f6g5
 4        0.62     0.12      11876 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5g4
 5        0.50     0.28      30978 c8c3 f5e6 c3c7 e6f7 f8f7 b1a1
 6    >=  0.50     0.32      35678 c8c3 f5e6 c3c7 e6f7 f8f7 b1a1 f6d4
 6    >=  0.52     0.32      35858 c8c3 f5e6 c3c7 e6f7 f8f7 b1a1 f6d4
 6    >=  0.58     0.33      36847 c8c3 f5e6 c3c7 e6f7 f8f7 b1a1 f6d4
 6    >=  0.72     0.37      40720 c8c3 f5e6 c3c7 e6f7 f8f7 b1a1 f6d4
 6    <=  0.95     0.49      55308 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 c3b4 f3b3 e6f5 f1d3
 6    <=  0.94     0.50      56192 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 c3b4 f3b3 e6f5 f1d3
 6    <=  0.91     0.51      58747 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 c3b4 f3b3 e6f5 f1d3
 6    >=  0.86     0.52      59214 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 c3b4 f3b3 e6f5 f1d3
 6    >=  0.88     0.52      59472 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 c3b4 f3b3 e6f5 f1d3
 6    <=  0.89     0.53      60322 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 c3b4 f3b3 e6f5 f1d3
 6    <=  0.88     0.54      62202 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 c3b4 f3b3 e6f5 f1d3
 6        0.88     0.54      62202 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 c3b4 f3b3 e6f5 f1d3
 7    <=  0.86     0.84     102119 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 c3b4 f3b3 e6f5 f1d3
 7    <=  0.84     0.88     107616 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 c3b4 f3b3 e6f5 f1d3
 7    <=  0.81     0.91     112965 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 c3b4 f3b3 e6f5 f1d3
 7    <=  0.73     1.05     135428 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 c3b4 f3b3 e6f5 f1d3
 7    >=  0.59     1.19     154626 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 c3b4 f3b3 e6f5 f1d3
                                   f5d3 d1d3
 7    >=  0.61     1.20     155623 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 c3b4 f3b3 e6f5 f1d3
                                   f5d3 d1d3
 7    <=  0.66     1.25     165248 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 c3b4 f3b3 e6f5 f1d3
                                   f5d3 d1d3
 7    <=  0.64     1.35     181000 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 c3b4 f3b3 e6f5 f1d3
                                   f5d3 d1d3
 7    >=  0.62     1.37     183573 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 c3b4 f3b3 e6f5 f1d3
                                   f5d3 d1d3
 7    >=  0.64     1.38     184816 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 c3b4 f3b3 e6f5 f1d3
                                   f5d3 d1d3
 7        0.64     1.38     184816 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 c3b4 f3b3 e6f5 f1d3
                                   f5d3 d1d3
 8    >=  0.64     1.64     225185 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 e6f5 f3f5 c3b4 b1c2
                                   f6d4
 8    >=  0.66     1.72     237293 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 e6f5 f3f5 c3b4 b1c2
                                   f6d4
 8    >=  0.72     1.78     247262 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 e6f5 f3f5 c3b4 b1c2
                                   f6d4
 8    <=  0.84     2.38     343893 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 e6f5 f3f5 c3b4 b1c2
                                   f6d4 d1d3 b4b2
 8    <=  0.83     2.41     349800 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 e6f5 f3f5 c3b4 b1c2
                                   f6d4 d1d3 b4b2
 8    <=  0.80     2.46     360074 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 e6f5 f3f5 c3b4 b1c2
                                   f6d4 d1d3 b4b2
 8    >=  0.73     2.49     366284 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 e6f5 f3f5 c3b4 b1c2
                                   f6d4 d1d3 b4b2
 8    >=  0.75     2.51     369923 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 e6f5 f3f5 c3b4 b1c2
                                   f6d4 d1d3 b4b2
 8    >=  0.80     2.56     379771 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 e6f5 f3f5 c3b4 b1c2
                                   f6d4 d1d3 b4b2
 8        0.80     2.57     379771 c8c3 b2c3 a5c3 h5f3 e6f5 f3f5 c3b4 b1c2
                                   f6d4 d1d3 b4b2


Tord



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