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Subject: Re: ordering the new fx-51

Author: Gregor Overney

Date: 12:56:05 09/24/03

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On September 23, 2003 at 18:07:52, Will Singleton wrote:

>On September 23, 2003 at 17:23:02, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>On September 23, 2003 at 16:41:14, Will Singleton wrote:
>>
>>>I've found a couple of places, namely Monarch and Alienware.  Appreciate
>>>feedback on these or other vendors.  Looking for a built-to-order system.
>>>
>>>Incidentally, I haven't seen the new extreme P4 available anywhere.
>>>
>>>Will
>>
>>Monarch is awesome.  I highly recommend them.  Alienware is ok, but pricey.
>
>Thanks.  I've never ordered at this detail level before (choosing the power
>supply, case, fans).  Would you take a look at the following options?  Any
>boo-boos?
>
>Monarch GT64FX Custom PC/WS (Athlon 64 FX)
>Cases: 100606 - No PS - Cooler Master ATC-210
>Power Supply: 100545 - Zalman 400W P4 Noiseless Power Supply MFN
>Case Fan: 100903 - A Sparkle Quiet Case Fan DF1208BB-3 80x80
>Motherboard: 110237 - ASUS nForce3 ASUS- SK8N DDR ECC RAID SATA
>Processor: 120709 - Athlon 64 FX-51
>Thermal Grease: 800018 - Shin-Etsu G675 Thermal Grease
>Heatsink Fan: 130124 - Thermaltake VENUS 8+ Highest Performance
>Memory: 140852-2 DDR (266) 2100 Reg ECC 1 GB (2 pcs 512)
>2nd Memory: None         
>Hard Drive: 150623 - Seagate 80 GB Barracuda 7200RPM 8MB Cache
>2nd Hard Drive: None
>RAID Setup: None
>CD/DVD-ROM: 160303 - Asus 52X CD-ROM
>CD-RW/DVD-RW: 160518 - Plextor DVD+R/RW IDE Drive Model PX-504A-
>Floppy Drive: 170110 - Mitsumi 3.5 (Black) Floppy Drive
>More Storage: 170451 - 250 MB Internal Zip Drive
>Sound Card: 180325 - Creative Labs Audigy 2 6.1
>Video Card: 190631 - ATI 9800 Pro 128 MB AGP 8X DVI/TV
>Modem: None
>Operating System: 210112 - Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition w/CD
>Network Card: 280105 - 3Com 3C905CX-TX-M WOL 10/100 PCI
>Add On Card: None
>Case Function Add-On: 270813 - Enermax Aluminum UC-A07FATR2 (BLACK)

Buy your new and expensive system in a configuration that does not force you to
upgrade within a year.

Are you sure you don't need a modem? Sometimes DSL or cable-modem is down.

Fill up all four banks with 512 MB modules since:
 - it will give you 2GB instead of just 1
 - you do not have to upgrade already end of 2004
 - you will then already know that the system works stable with all memory slots
filled. (I had an ASUS board that I could not upgrade since the only free memory
slot caused problems. Something I did not know when I purchased the board. Of
course, you could always replace broken parts. But this is really annoying
trying to trace the problem and then replace the parts.)

Futher:
 - Take the 3 years warranty
 - Buy the HP DVD+R/RW drive
 - Unless you really want to use ZIP disks, you can skip this drive. For
"emergencies" you have a floppy.
 - Add the rush-fee to get your system before Christmas.
 - Add a second harddisk drive! 2 times 80 is better than 1x 160. Head-motion
slows down the system significantly. You want to have your swap on a separate
drive from your data.

Don't you want to wait until you get a real 64-bit system with 64-bit OS and
64-bit applications? Do you know that AMD will move their chip production to a
new 90nm process as early as Q2 in 04?

Gregor



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