Author: Gregor Overney
Date: 16:58:55 09/24/03
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On September 24, 2003 at 17:13:17, Will Singleton wrote: >On September 24, 2003 at 15:56:05, Gregor Overney wrote: > >>On September 23, 2003 at 18:07:52, Will Singleton wrote: >> >>>On September 23, 2003 at 17:23:02, Slater Wold wrote: >>> >>>>On September 23, 2003 at 16:41:14, Will Singleton wrote: >>>> >>>>>I've found a couple of places, namely Monarch and Alienware. Appreciate >>>>>feedback on these or other vendors. Looking for a built-to-order system. >>>>> >>>>>Incidentally, I haven't seen the new extreme P4 available anywhere. >>>>> >>>>>Will >>>> >>>>Monarch is awesome. I highly recommend them. Alienware is ok, but pricey. >>> >>>Thanks. I've never ordered at this detail level before (choosing the power >>>supply, case, fans). Would you take a look at the following options? Any >>>boo-boos? >>> >>>Monarch GT64FX Custom PC/WS (Athlon 64 FX) >>>Cases: 100606 - No PS - Cooler Master ATC-210 >>>Power Supply: 100545 - Zalman 400W P4 Noiseless Power Supply MFN >>>Case Fan: 100903 - A Sparkle Quiet Case Fan DF1208BB-3 80x80 >>>Motherboard: 110237 - ASUS nForce3 ASUS- SK8N DDR ECC RAID SATA >>>Processor: 120709 - Athlon 64 FX-51 >>>Thermal Grease: 800018 - Shin-Etsu G675 Thermal Grease >>>Heatsink Fan: 130124 - Thermaltake VENUS 8+ Highest Performance >>>Memory: 140852-2 DDR (266) 2100 Reg ECC 1 GB (2 pcs 512) >>>2nd Memory: None >>>Hard Drive: 150623 - Seagate 80 GB Barracuda 7200RPM 8MB Cache >>>2nd Hard Drive: None >>>RAID Setup: None >>>CD/DVD-ROM: 160303 - Asus 52X CD-ROM >>>CD-RW/DVD-RW: 160518 - Plextor DVD+R/RW IDE Drive Model PX-504A- >>>Floppy Drive: 170110 - Mitsumi 3.5 (Black) Floppy Drive >>>More Storage: 170451 - 250 MB Internal Zip Drive >>>Sound Card: 180325 - Creative Labs Audigy 2 6.1 >>>Video Card: 190631 - ATI 9800 Pro 128 MB AGP 8X DVI/TV >>>Modem: None >>>Operating System: 210112 - Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition w/CD >>>Network Card: 280105 - 3Com 3C905CX-TX-M WOL 10/100 PCI >>>Add On Card: None >>>Case Function Add-On: 270813 - Enermax Aluminum UC-A07FATR2 (BLACK) >> >>Buy your new and expensive system in a configuration that does not force you to >>upgrade within a year. > >I wouldn't call it expensive. Expensive is $10,000 for a Lisa. For the >performance, it's relatively cheap. > > >> >>Are you sure you don't need a modem? Sometimes DSL or cable-modem is down. >> >>Fill up all four banks with 512 MB modules since: >> - it will give you 2GB instead of just 1 >> - you do not have to upgrade already end of 2004 >> - you will then already know that the system works stable with all memory slots >>filled. (I had an ASUS board that I could not upgrade since the only free memory >>slot caused problems. Something I did not know when I purchased the board. Of >>course, you could always replace broken parts. But this is really annoying >>trying to trace the problem and then replace the parts.) >> >>Futher: >> - Take the 3 years warranty >> - Buy the HP DVD+R/RW drive >> - Unless you really want to use ZIP disks, you can skip this drive. For >>"emergencies" you have a floppy. >> - Add the rush-fee to get your system before Christmas. >> - Add a second harddisk drive! 2 times 80 is better than 1x 160. Head-motion >>slows down the system significantly. You want to have your swap on a separate >>drive from your data. >> >>Don't you want to wait until you get a real 64-bit system with 64-bit OS and >>64-bit applications? Do you know that AMD will move their chip production to a >>new 90nm process as early as Q2 in 04? >> >>Gregor > >Thanks for your suggestions. Re your last point, the Athlon 64 is a real 64-bit >system, and I'll be able to run my 64-bit apps on a 64-bit windows in 2004. But >you're right, things change fast. However, you can't always wait until >something better comes along; got to pick your spots. > >Will When I talk about a 64-bit system, I include the SW as well. The HW alone does not account for a real 64-bit system. It's just a 64-bit capable HW platform. - You are ordering your system with XP Home edition. To assume that all your HW will run without any problems once you switch to a 64-bit OS, is rather optimistic. My experience is different. Based on this I buy a system complete (including OS), use it for two to three years, and then upgrade to the next one. Gregor
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