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Subject: This is what is so unique about the new AMD 64-bits FX

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 09:46:20 09/25/03


www:pcworld.com

Besides adding 64-bit capabilities, AMD has made other improvements to its
newest CPUs. They include a 1MB L2 cache (up from 512KB), a faster speed system
bus based on Hypertransport technology, and new SSE 2 instructions. Probably the
most important change, however, is AMD's move to an on-chip memory controller.

Traditionally, the memory controller resides on the motherboard as part of the
chip set, connected to the CPU via the frontside bus. AMD's Athlon XP offers a
maximum frontside bus speed of 400 MHz; Intel's latest P4s have a maximum of 800
MHz. By integrating the memory controller, AMD gives memory a private channel to
the CPU so it no longer must share a pipe with other system components. Unlike
on-board CPU cache, the integrated memory controller runs at the memory speed,
not CPU speed.

"The on-board memory controller provides more bandwidth and drops the latency,"
says Kevin Krewell, general manager at analysis firm MicroDesign Resources.
Lower latency means less time between when the CPU asks for data from memory and
when it gets it.

The two new Athlons also have real architectural differences between them. For
example, the FX-51's dual channels can move up to 6.4GB of data per second with
DDR400 while the mainstream Athlon 64's single-channel DDR can move up to 3.2
GBps. More: The FX-51 requires a 940-pin socket (the Athlon 64 3200+ uses the
new Socket 754) and more expensive registered-memory DIMMs. Usually reserved for
servers, a registered DIMM includes an internal buffer that allows more memory
chips per DIMM, but with a delay of half a clock cycle required to help prevent
spontaneous errors. The FX-51 is also easier to overclock than the Athlon 64,
although AMD won't officially recommend doing that (it still voids the
warranty).

At launch, AMD is charging PC vendors $733 for each FX chip in quantities of
1000, compared with $417 for the Athlon 64 3200+ (Intel's 3.2-GHz P4 is selling
for $637). That's a hearty premium for the FX-51 product, but it's a price that
performance buffs are likely to pay, says Dean McCarron, principal analyst with
Mercury Research.

There should be little confusion between AMD's two new chips, but you'll note
the company gave the 2-GHz Athlon 64 the same 3200+ performance rating as that
of its last 32-bit Athlon XP chip (64-bit FX-designated chips dropped the
performance-rating scheme altogether). Check carefully before you buy: AMD will
continue to sell both 3200+ CPUs for the near future.


What's With 64 Bits?
The arrival of 64-bit desktop computing is at hand: AMD's launch of its Athlon
64 chips--along with Apple's release of its G5 desktops--means 64-bit
processors, once reserved for servers and high-end workstations, are now in
systems available on retail shelves.

In time, 64-bit systems could change the face of desktop computing. That's
because a 64-bit processor can run longer, more complex instructions than a
32-bit chip, improving the performance of data-intensive tasks such as audio and
video encoding, advanced engineering design apps, and, naturally, games.

Equally important is a 64-bit CPU's capability to recognize and use much more
memory. Today's 32-bit chips, including Intel's Pentium 4 and AMD's Athlon XP,
can address a maximum of 4GB of memory split between the OS and applications.
Few desktops have that much memory, and even fewer apps use it. But in time and
with ever more complex software, that limitation may become a bottleneck, making
a 64-bit processor's theoretical capability to address a whopping 16 billion
gigabytes of memory quite attractive.

But you will need a 64-bit-capable operating system, new hardware drivers, and
64-bit applications to fully take advantage of such a processor, and therein
lies the rub.

Several Linux distributions, notably Red Hat, now support the Athlon 64, but
Microsoft's Windows XP 64-Bit Edition for 64-bit Athlons won't arrive until next
year. Aside from a handful of expected applications, such as DivXNetworks' DivX
video encoder, 64-bit desktop software will be an even longer wait. The lack of
full software support is one reason Intel does not currently plan to introduce a
64-bit desktop chip.

Apple's latest OS X has 64-bit extensions, providing the new G5 systems and a
handful of optimized apps a taste of greater power. But that isn't quite enough
to give Apple a wholesale performance edge.


Market Views Differ
So if the Athlon 64 and Athlon 64 FX perform so well for 32-bit computing, why
is AMD pushing the 64-bit angle at all? Because company executives believe the
64-bit desktop age is dawning now.

Once video editors watch a 64-bit PC encode video directly to a DVD on the fly,
they'll want one, says Rich Heye, vice president of AMD's microprocessor unit.
And once gamers see the cinematic quality that 64-bit chips help make possible,
they'll want one.

Though mass-market adoption will take a few years, "the average lifetime of a PC
is three to four years, and I think a lot of people will be running 64 bits
before that's up," Heye says.

Executives at Intel disagree, seeing 64-bit computing as largely a server and
workstation technology for the short term.

"With just 5 percent of servers using 64-bit addressability, there is little
need [for 64 bits] today on the desktop," says George Alfs, Intel spokesperson,
adding that the capability means little without accompanying software and other
tools to make it work at its best.

History shows transitions like this do take time. Ironically, back in 1985 when
Intel launched its 386 processor--a 32-bit chip that also ran 16-bit code--AMD
claimed the extra bits weren't yet necessary. And Windows didn't become a pure
32-bit OS until Microsoft launched XP in 2001.


What's Next?
MDR's Krewell sees Intel's resistance to 64-bit computing on the desktop as a
move to protect its sizable investment in its 64-bit Itanium CPU, designed for
servers and workstations.

Krewell says he's convinced Intel has a backup plan should AMD's 64-bit
computing initiative take off. "There is no technical reason they cannot
implement a 64-bit extension in their desktop chips," he says.

Intel's Alfs says the company will continue to focus on "bringing benefits that
PC users can use now." To that end, the company is promoting the 3.2-GHz P4 HT
Extreme Edition, aimed at gamers who want top performance. This 32-bit chip
boasts 2MB of L3 cache to speed users through their games.

Intel's next-generation chip, code-named Prescott, will also debut before year's
end. Prescott's improvements include a larger L2 cache, new instructions, and
improved hyperthreading technology.

In the meantime, with the Athlon 64, AMD has clearly reignited the so-called
chip wars. For users, that's always good news, says MDR's Krewell.




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