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Subject: Re: to trade or not to trade

Author: Tim Foden

Date: 13:55:13 09/25/03

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On September 25, 2003 at 12:08:17, Will Singleton wrote:

>[D]6k1/8/p3p2p/2Q5/1N2qp2/8/5K2/8 b - - 0 47
>
>Black has the option of Qe3+, going into a 3 pawns vs knight game.  It appears
>from analysis that after the queens are off, white cannot stop all the pawns.  I
>don't know whether it's possible to win without trading queens (doesn't look
>like it), but it appears certain that Qe3+ will win.  However, programs are
>reluctant to play it.

GLC 3.00 isn't very reluctant.  It probably scores these passed pawns a bit
high, but there you go!  :)

It likes it from 0 seconds.

Cheers, Tim.

Analysis (AXP 1.67GHz, 24MB hash)...

 Game stage: Endgame
 Current eval: 1.317
 Ply   Time   Score   Nodes  Principal variation
  6   0.010  +1.872    5455  Qe3+ 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nc6 a4 5. Ne5
  6   0.020  +1.872   22928  Qe3+ 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nc6 a4 5. Ne5
  7   0.030  +1.937   26512  Qe3+ 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nd3 Kg7 5. Ne5 a4
  7   0.050  +1.937   57049  Qe3+ 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nd3 Kg7 5. Ne5 a4
  8   0.060  +1.886   66631  Qe3+ 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nd3 Kg7 5. Ne5 a4
                               6. Kd4
 Generating internal KP-K end-game table...
 Done (0.181 secs)
  8   0.311  +1.886  144431  Qe3+ 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nd3 Kg7 5. Ne5 a4
                               6. Kd4
  9   0.331  +2.286  164515  Qe3+ {++} 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nd3 a4 5.
                               Ne5 a3 6. Nd3 a2 7. Ne5
  9   0.351  +2.404  181347  Qe3+ 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nc2 Kf7 5. Ke4
                               Kf6 6. Nd4 a4
  9   0.391  +2.404  234139  Qe3+ 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nc2 Kf7 5. Ke4
                               Kf6 6. Nd4 a4
 10   0.421  +2.246  273278  Qe3+ 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nc2 Kf7 5. Na3
                               Kf6 6. Nc4 a4 7. Nd6
 10   0.581  +2.246  464643  Qe3+ 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nc2 Kf7 5. Na3
                               Kf6 6. Nc4 a4 7. Nd6
 11   3.575  +1.846 3790164  Qe3+ {--} 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nc2 Kf7 5.
                               Kd3 a4 6. Kc4 h5 7. Kb5 e5 8. Kxa4
 11   3.626  +1.847 3843950  Qe3+ {++} 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nc2 Kf7 5.
                               Kd3 a4 6. Kc4 h5 7. Kb5 e5
 11   3.636  +1.814 3853079  Qe3+ 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nc2 Kf7 5. Kd3 h5
                               6. Kc4 h4 7. Kb5 h3 8. Kxa5
 11   4.937  +1.814 5403791  Qe3+ 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nc2 Kf7 5. Kd3 h5
                               6. Kc4 h4 7. Kb5 h3 8. Kxa5
 12   5.128  +1.636 5620587  Qe3+ 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nc2 a4 5. Kf4 Kg7
                               6. Ke5 h5 7. Nd4 a3 8. Nxe6+ Kg6
 12  14.812  +1.636  15995k  Qe3+ 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nc2 a4 5. Kf4 Kg7
                               6. Ke5 h5 7. Nd4 a3 8. Nxe6+ Kg6
 13  15.292  +1.987  16496k  Qe3+ 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nd3 a4 5. Kd2 h5
                               6. Kc3 h4 7. Kb4 h3 8. Kxa4 h2 9. Nf2
 13  20.500  +1.987  22227k  Qe3+ 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nd3 a4 5. Kd2 h5
                               6. Kc3 h4 7. Kb4 h3 8. Kxa4 h2 9. Nf2
 14  21.351  +1.959  23134k  Qe3+ 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nd3 a4 5. Kd4 h5
                               6. Kc4 h4 7. Nf2 h3 8. Nxh3 a3
 14  34.230  +1.959  37425k  Qe3+ 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nd3 a4 5. Kd4 h5
                               6. Kc4 h4 7. Nf2 h3 8. Nxh3 a3
 15  36.433  +1.718  39837k  Qe3+ 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nd3 a4 5. Kd4 h5
                               6. Kc4 h4 7. Nf2 e5 8. Kb4 Kf7 9. Kxa4 Kf6
 15 1:33.35  +1.718 100487k  Qe3+ 2. Qxe3 fxe3+ 3. Kxe3 a5 4. Nd3 a4 5. Kd4 h5
                               6. Kc4 h4 7. Nf2 e5 8. Kb4 Kf7 9. Kxa4 Kf6
Analyse>exit
 local:  t=1:37.94  nps=1077988.3  n=105579256 (34.0% / 66.0%)
 total:  t=5:29.95  nps=969339.2  n=319837338
 stats:  fh=91.4%/3.18%/1.111%  draws=102327
 trans:  probes=35782363  hits=11723160 (32.76%)  draft=8884074 (24.83%)
 tcuts:  exact=556 (0.00%)  upper=6347909 (17.74%)  lower=1445743 (4.04%)
 tstor:  exact=563 (0.00%)  upper=13109554 (68.31%)  lower=6080620 (31.69%)
 ext:  check=12834844  recap=338443  ppush=484641  1rep=391503  thrt=0
 q-moves:  gen=20329923  tested=15733925  made/un=8911754  max-dep=7
 max eval diff:  part-1=5.767  part-2=1.197



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