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Subject: Re: Hiarcs 9 vs Hiarcs 8 in Engine Matches and Hiarcs 8 Bareev

Author: David Dahlem

Date: 11:37:30 09/26/03

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On September 26, 2003 at 12:22:27, Alexander Yates wrote:

>I've tested H9 against H8 in 4 engine matches. These were all blitz games @ 4+2.
>
>Hiarcs 9 did _poorly_ using its own book against Hiarcs 8 using its tournament
>book. It lost with 10 W 18 L 22 D!
>When they both used the H9 native book, H9 did only marginally better then H8,
>and the same held true when H9 used the H8 Tour. book against H8 using the H9
>book.
>
>Then they both used the H8 Tour. book and again H9 did only slightly better.
>
>Conclusion after 200 games, H9 @ Blitz is _no_ stronger then H8! No real rating
>gain...this is truly a disappointment, as I expected no less then a 50 pt. gain.
>
>Then I did one last match, same time controls, 50 games, using the H8 Tour. book
>and played it against Hiarcs 8 Bareev, using the H8 Tour., and to my
>surprise Hiarcs 8 Bareev won with a score of 19 W 9 L 22 D!
>
>IMO, at least at blitz, Hiarcs 8 Bareev is at least 50 pts. stronger than Hiarcs
>8, while Hiarcs 9 failed to live up to its (my) expectations, and is
>roughly even with Hiarcs 8.
>
>Hopefully, others here will test H9 against H8 and also test H8 Bareev against
>both H8 and H9.
>
>It won't surprise me in the least, if Hiarcs 8 Bareev is the strongest engine of
>the three...so far it appears it is!
>
>Of course this is blitz and running on the same machine. So two computer tests
>may show different results.
>
>Still, my findings came as a surprise and I'm certain that Hiarcs 9 needs an
>optimized book, as the default book didn't do it any favours.
>
>ChessBase are you listening?
>
>
>Alex

You can't draw any conclusions based on such fast time controls. Try testing at
longer time controls to get more accurate conclusions!

Dave



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