Author: Alexander Yates
Date: 11:50:43 09/26/03
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On September 26, 2003 at 14:37:30, David Dahlem wrote: >On September 26, 2003 at 12:22:27, Alexander Yates wrote: > >>I've tested H9 against H8 in 4 engine matches. These were all blitz games @ 4+2. >> >>Hiarcs 9 did _poorly_ using its own book against Hiarcs 8 using its tournament >>book. It lost with 10 W 18 L 22 D! >>When they both used the H9 native book, H9 did only marginally better then H8, >>and the same held true when H9 used the H8 Tour. book against H8 using the H9 >>book. >> >>Then they both used the H8 Tour. book and again H9 did only slightly better. >> >>Conclusion after 200 games, H9 @ Blitz is _no_ stronger then H8! No real rating >>gain...this is truly a disappointment, as I expected no less then a 50 pt. gain. >> >>Then I did one last match, same time controls, 50 games, using the H8 Tour. book >>and played it against Hiarcs 8 Bareev, using the H8 Tour., and to my >>surprise Hiarcs 8 Bareev won with a score of 19 W 9 L 22 D! >> >>IMO, at least at blitz, Hiarcs 8 Bareev is at least 50 pts. stronger than Hiarcs >>8, while Hiarcs 9 failed to live up to its (my) expectations, and is >>roughly even with Hiarcs 8. >> >>Hopefully, others here will test H9 against H8 and also test H8 Bareev against >>both H8 and H9. >> >>It won't surprise me in the least, if Hiarcs 8 Bareev is the strongest engine of >>the three...so far it appears it is! >> >>Of course this is blitz and running on the same machine. So two computer tests >>may show different results. >> >>Still, my findings came as a surprise and I'm certain that Hiarcs 9 needs an >>optimized book, as the default book didn't do it any favours. >> >>ChessBase are you listening? >> >> >>Alex > >You can't draw any conclusions based on such fast time controls. Try testing at >longer time controls to get more accurate conclusions! > >Dave Did I not mention, this is blitz, and I found this trend at blitz? Of course results may very at slower time controls and on connected computers, instead of a single machine. I don't have the use of several computers, so I need others to help me, and us, to put what I've said to the test. If you or others prove me wrong, great! But it needs to be tested further, and H9 needs a better book:-) Also Hiarcs 8 Bareev, shouldn't be neglected, it may turn out to be much better than people think! I'm sorry I ever used the word conclusion...I agree, it's not conclusive. Alex
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