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Subject: Re: When is considered the opponent does not have enough mating material

Author: Dieter Buerssner

Date: 12:45:19 09/26/03

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On September 26, 2003 at 15:09:37, Matthew White wrote:

>On September 26, 2003 at 14:36:41, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>
>>So, when in KBKR, the R side loses on time, it will be draw? Can the R side
>>claim a draw, before losing on time? (Due to KRKB tbs file, there are no lost
>>positions for the R side).

>I think that the person who loses on time CAN declare a draw due to insufficient
>material.

Yes.

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6.10  Except where Articles 5.1 or one of the Articles 5.2 (a), (b) and (c)
apply, if a player does not complete the prescribed number of moves in the
allotted time, the game is lost by the player. However, the game is drawn, if
the position is such that the opponent cannot checkmate the player's king by any
possible series of legal moves, even with the most unskilled counterplay.
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I phrased my question poorly. Actually I wanted to emphasize on: "Can the R side
claim a draw, before losing on time?"

Or say KNNK, and I am the N side, and I have no desire to win. I cannot fínd a
rule in the Fide handbook, that allows me to claim a draw. I could go to the
bar, and have a drink, let my clock run out of time, and then I would be awarded
a draw. This seems a bit illogical. Perhaps I did not find the right rule.

It has some implication for chess engines (when beeing very pedantic). Under WB,
the engine can send a result. I think, the N-side should be allowed to send a
draw result here, but not the lonely K-side. But then, somebody could complain,
and say, that it is against the rules.

To Andrei Fortuna, my first answer was answering a slightly different question,
than asked (namely, which positions can be claimed draw during the game, without
losing on time).

Regards,
Dieter




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