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Subject: Re: II. MKB open, Debrecen - HUNGARY (again) - are computers GMs???

Author: Mike Stoker

Date: 04:40:02 11/06/98

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On November 05, 1998 at 18:39:21, odell hall wrote:

>Yes Mr. Schoeder this is pretty convincing evidence That computers are
>Grandmaster Level or slightly below!! I don't think I have seen one performance
>by rebel9 which was below grandmaster level. Yet people continually say they are
>not grandmasters, which to me appears to be based on emotional considerations
>rather than factual considerations. This posting by you is just one more proof
>in a long line of other proofs I have seen.  I challenge anyone to produce a
>less than grandmaster result by rebel!!


I think the point is that computers are at least as good as top GMs in tactical
games, and well below in postiional games.  This is why we see some fantastic,
sparkling victories, following by a humiliating thrashing!!  Being a grandmaster
involves playing well right throughout the game - not just "getting by" until a
sparkling tactical combination is seen 20 plys deep.

I don't think that computers can really be considered to be better than humans
until they can gain at least a par with humans in their positional knowledge and
awareness.  This is difficult, because no matter how much knowledge you
encapsulate within a program, humans are always able to apply logic to a
situation, to create knowledge on the fly.

Mike.



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