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Subject: Re: Test position (hard?)

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 17:28:34 09/29/03

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On September 29, 2003 at 17:25:28, Anthony Cozzie wrote:

>From "Art of Attack in Chess", p269, from Treybal-Wolf Teplitz-Schonau 1922
>
>[D]1r3bk1/2p2p2/3pqPpp/2p1n3/2P1P2R/1PQ3N1/rB4PP/5RK1 b - - 0 1
>
>Wolf here played Nxc4, which Vukovic claims loses.  Vukovic thinks Black should
>sacrifice the exchange with  1 ..Rxb2 2. Qxb2 Nxc4 3. Qc3 Ne5.
>
>Zappa here stubbornly sticks with Nxc4, even after a full day's worth of
>anaylsis:
>
>1... Nxc4 2. Rb1 Rxb2 3. Rxb2 Nxb2 4. Qxb2 Rxb3 5. Qa1 Qc4 6. Rf4 Qc2 7. Qa8 Rb2
>8. Rf1
> = (2.46)       Depth: 13/24    00:01:01.11     29691kN
>1... Nxc4 2. Bc1 Ne5 3. Bxh6 Bxh6 4. Rxh6 Rxb3 5. Qc1 Ng4 6. Qg5 Nxh6 7. Qxh6
>Rxg2 8. Kxg2 Rb2 9. Rf2
> - (2.16)       Depth: 14/28    00:04:25.43     128216kN
>1... g5 2. Rh5
> = (2.16)       Depth: 14/28    00:05:04.37     147721kN
>1... g5 2. Rh5 Nxc4 3. Nf5 Nxb2 4. Qg3 g4 5. Qxg4 Kh8 6. Qg5 Ra1 7. Rxa1 Qxe4
> - (1.86)       Depth: 15/33    00:16:23.51     455789kN
>1... g5 2. Rh5 Nxc4 3. Nf5 Rxb2 4. Qxc4
> = (1.86)       Depth: 15/32    00:16:56.67     470714kN
>1... Nxc4 2. Bc1 Ne5 3. Bxh6 Rxb3 4. Qc1 Ng4 5. Bxf8 Rxg3 6. hxg3 Qxe4 7. Rf3
>Qd4 8. Kf1 Ra1 9. Rh8 Kxh8 10. Bg7 Kg8
> = (1.88)       Depth: 16/39    00:30:40.06     866517kN
>1... Nxc4 2. Bc1 g5 3. Rxh6 Bxh6 4. bxc4 Rb1 5. Qd3 Ra1 6. Qc3 Qg4 7. Qb3 Bf8 8.
>Qe3 Rc2 9. h3 Qh4
> = (1.96)       Depth: 17/39    00:47:26.58     1348472kN
>1... Nxc4 2. Bc1 g5 3. Rxh6 Bxh6 4. bxc4 Rb1 5. Nf5 Bf8 6. Qg3 Qxf6 7. Bxg5 Rxf1
>8. Kxf1 Qg6 9. Nh4 Qg7 10. Ke1 Qa1 11. Bc1
> = (1.95)       Depth: 18/46    02:04:29.41     3522924kN
>1... Nxc4 2. Bc1 g5 3. Rxh6 Bxh6 4. bxc4 Rb1 5. Nf5 Bf8 6. Qg3 Qxf6 7. Bxg5 Rxf1
>8. Kxf1 Qg6 9. Bd8 Qxg3 10. Nxg3 Rc2 11. h3
> = (2.05)       Depth: 19/43    03:05:13.14     5271379kN
>1... Nxc4 2. Bc1 g5 3. Bxg5 Ne5 4. Bxh6 Ng6 5. Rh5 Rxb3 6. Qc1 Rb2 7. Qg5 c4 8.
>Kh1 Rxg2 9. Qf5 Qxf5 10. exf5 Bxh6 11. fxg6 Ra1
> - (1.75)       Depth: 20/56    10:54:43.48     18313543kN
>1... Nxc4 2. Bc1 g5 3. Bxg5 Ne5 4. Bxh6 Ng6 5. Rh5 Rxb3 6. Qc1 Rb2 7. Qg5 Rxg2
>8. Kh1 Raf2 9. Rxf2 Rxf2 10. Kg1 Qa2 11. Qd5 Bxh6
> = (1.75)       Depth: 20/43    11:08:41.21     18712897kN
>1... Nxc4 2. Bc1 g5 3. Bxg5 Ne5 4. Bxh6 Ng6 5. Rh5 Rxb3 6. Qc1 Rb2 7. Qg5 Rxg2
>8. Kh1 Rgf2 9. Rxf2 Rxf2 10. Kg1
> = (1.90)       Depth: 21/59    14:32:59.48     24626191kN
>1... Nxc4 2. Bc1 g5 3. Bxg5 Ne5 4. Bxh6 Ng6 5. Rh5 Rxb3 6. Qc1 Rb2 7. Qg5 Rxg2
>8. Kh1 Rgf2 9. Rxf2 Rxf2 10. Kg1 Qxf6 11. Qe3 Rf3 12. Qe2 Bxh6
> = (1.90)       Depth: 22/65    21:27:33.94     36681946kN
>
>Count: Time: 92340934ms, Nodes: 43966971926 QNodes: 33866453371[77.0%], NPS:476K
>Hash:  TProbes: 10095633k [23.0%] TPings: 3406487k [33.7%], THits: 2232677k
>[22.1%], PHits: 33346156k [98.5%], KHits: 33346156k [98.5%]
>Ext:   Check: 2128695k Pawn: 98350k Recap: 20419k Mate: 3737k Race: 0k Trade: 0k
>1Rep: 61237k KS: 0k Singular: 0k
>
>Vukovic here recommends Bc1 g5 Rh3, while Zappa plays Bxg5.  So, who is wrong
>here?  Does your engine see a win for white after Nxc4?
>
>anthony


Shredder 7.04
1r3bk1/2p2p2/3pqPpp/2p1n3/2P1P2R/1PQ3N1/rB4PP/5RK1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 7.04:

1...Rxb2 2.Qxb2 Qxf6 3.Rxf6
  ²  (0.28)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
1...Rxb2 2.Qxb2 Qxf6 3.Rxf6
  ±  (0.81)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
1...Rxb2 2.Qxb2 Qxf6 3.Rxf6
  +-  (1.69)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
1...g5 2.Rh3 Qxh3 3.gxh3 Nf3+ 4.Rxf3
  =  (0.20)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
1...g5 2.Rh3 Qxh3 3.gxh3 Nf3+ 4.Rxf3 Ra1+ 5.Bxa1
  ³  (-0.30)   Depth: 1/6   00:00:00
1...g5 2.Rh3 Qxh3 3.gxh3 Nf3+ 4.Rxf3 Ra1+ 5.Bxa1
  ³  (-0.30)   Depth: 1/8   00:00:00
1...c6
  µ  (-0.90)   Depth: 1/8   00:00:00
1...c6
  µ  (-0.90)   Depth: 1/8   00:00:00
1...Nxc4 2.Rb1
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 1/8   00:00:00
1...Nxc4 2.Rb1
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 1/8   00:00:00
1...Nxc4 2.Rb1
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 2/2   00:00:00
1...Nxc4 2.Rb1
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 3/3   00:00:00
1...Nxc4 2.Rb1
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 4/4   00:00:00
1...Nxc4 2.Rb1
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 5/5   00:00:00
1...Nxc4 2.Rb1
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 6/6   00:00:00
1...Nxc4 2.Rb1
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 7/8   00:00:00  31kN
1...Nxc4 2.Rb1
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 8/8   00:00:00  35kN
1...Nxc4 2.Rb1
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 9/9   00:00:00  67kN
1...Nxc4 2.Rb1
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 10/10   00:00:00  99kN
1...Nxc4 2.Bc1 Ne5 3.Bxh6 Bxh6 4.Rxh6 Qxb3 5.Qc1 Ng4 6.Nf5 Nxh6 7.Nxh6+ Kf8
8.Qg5
  -+  (-3.12)   Depth: 11/26   00:00:03  1636kN
1...Nxc4 2.Bc1 Ne5 3.Bxh6 Bxh6 4.Rxh6 Qxb3 5.Qc1 Ng4 6.Nf5 Nxh6 7.Qxh6 Rxg2+
8.Kxg2 Qg3+ 9.hxg3
  -+  (-2.87)   Depth: 12/29   00:00:04  2461kN
1...Nxc4 2.Bc1 g5 3.Rxh6 Bxh6 4.bxc4 Qe5 5.Qf3 Qd4+ 6.Be3 Kh7 7.Bxd4 Rxg2+
8.Kxg2
  -+  (-2.38)   Depth: 12/29   00:00:08  4387kN
1...Nxc4 2.Bc1 Ne5 3.Bxh6 Rxb3 4.Qc1 Rbb2 5.Bxf8 Rxg2+ 6.Kh1 Ng4 7.Rf4 Rxh2+
8.Kg1 Rxh4 9.Rxg4 Qxg4 10.Qh6 Rxh6
  -+  (-2.63)   Depth: 13/34   00:00:16  8425kN
1...Nxc4 2.Bc1 Ne5 3.Bxh6 Rxb3 4.Qc1 Rbb2 5.Bxf8 Rxg2+ 6.Kh1 Ng4 7.Rf4 Rxh2+
8.Kg1 Rxh4 9.Rxg4 Qxg4 10.Bxd6
  -+  (-3.13)   Depth: 13/34   00:00:21  10927kN
1...Nxc4 2.Rb1 Nxb2 3.Rxb2 Rxb2 4.Qxb2 Qxb3 5.Qe2 Qb2 6.Qf3 Qd4+ 7.Kh1 Rb1+
8.Nf1 c4 9.Qf5 gxf5
  -+  (-3.66)   Depth: 13/34   00:00:51  25592kN
1...Nxc4 2.Bc1 Ne5 3.Bxh6 Rxb3 4.Bxf8 g5 5.Nf5 Rxg2+ 6.Kxg2 gxh4 7.Qc1 Qxf5
8.exf5 Rb2+ 9.Qxb2
  -+  (-3.41)   Depth: 14/34   00:01:06  33390kN
1...Nxc4 2.Bc1 Ne5 3.Bxh6 Rxb3 4.Bxf8 g5 5.Nf5 Rxg2+ 6.Kxg2 gxh4 7.Qc1 Qxf5
8.exf5 Nd3 9.Bxd6
  -+  (-2.91)   Depth: 14/36   00:01:15  38337kN
1...Nxc4 2.Bc1 g5 3.Rxh6 Bxh6 4.bxc4 Rb1 5.Nf5 Bf8 6.Qg3 Qxf6 7.e5 Qg6 8.exd6
Rxc1 9.Ne7+ Bxe7 10.dxe7 Rxf1+
  -+  (-2.47)   Depth: 14/40   00:02:34  77633kN
1...Nxc4 2.Bc1 g5 3.Bxg5 hxg5 4.Rh5 Ne5 5.Qe3 g4 6.Nf5 Ng6 7.Nh6+ Bxh6 8.Qxh6
Qxb3 9.Kh1 Qf3 10.gxf3 Rb1 11.Rxb1
  -+  (-2.22)   Depth: 15/38   00:04:10  123901kN
1...Nxc4 2.Bc1 g5 3.Bxg5 Ne5 4.Qc1 Rxb3 5.Bxh6 Ng6 6.Qg5 Rbb2 7.Kh1 Rxg2 8.Bxf8
Kxf8 9.Rh7 Ke8 10.Rg1
  -+  (-2.16)   Depth: 15/43   00:04:50  143575kN
1...g5 2.Rh5 Nxc4 3.Nf5 Rxb2 4.bxc4 R8b3 5.Qc1 Qxe4 6.Rxg5+ Kh7 7.Rg3 Rb1
8.Qxh6+ Bxh6 9.Rxb3 Rxb3
  -+  (-2.17)   Depth: 15/43   00:05:09  152933kN
1...g5 2.Rh5 Nxc4 3.Nf5 Rxb2 4.Qxc4 Qxc4 5.bxc4 Rc2 6.Nxh6+ Bxh6 7.Rxh6 Rbb2
8.g3 Rxc4 9.Rh5 Rxe4 10.Rxg5+
  -+  (-2.33)   Depth: 15/43   00:05:30  164013kN
1...g5 2.Rh5 Nxc4 3.Nf5 Rxb2 4.Qxc4 Qxc4 5.bxc4 Kh7 6.g4 Kg6 7.Rh3 Re2 8.Re3 Rc2
9.e5
  -+  (-2.58)   Depth: 16/37   00:06:35  195571kN
1...g5 2.Rh5 Nxc4 3.Nf5 Rxb2 4.Qxc4 Qxc4 5.bxc4 Kh7 6.h4 Kg6 7.g4 Re2 8.hxg5
Rxe4 9.Nh4+ Kh7 10.gxh6 Rxg4+ 11.Kf2 Rf4+
  -+  (-2.70)   Depth: 16/37   00:07:32  224792kN
1...g5 2.Rh5 Nxc4 3.Nf5 Rxb2 4.Qxc4 Qxc4 5.bxc4 Kh7 6.h4 Kg6 7.g4 Re2 8.Ng3 Re3
9.Kf2 Rbb3 10.Nf5 Rxe4 11.hxg5
  -+  (-2.91)   Depth: 17/41   00:12:09  359213kN
1...g5 2.Rh5 Nxc4 3.Nf5 Rxb2 4.Qxc4 Qxc4 5.bxc4 Kh7 6.Rh3 Re2 7.Re3 Rc2 8.Ra3
Rxc4 9.Ra7 Rxe4 10.Rxc7 Kg6
  -+  (-3.04)   Depth: 18/50   00:27:38  809037kN

(,  29.09.2003)



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