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Subject: Re: In about 20 years computer earned 1000 elo points, what's you forecast ?

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 05:12:14 10/03/03

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On October 02, 2003 at 17:40:21, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 02, 2003 at 16:05:54, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>On October 02, 2003 at 05:32:56, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>
>>>On October 01, 2003 at 19:45:38, Roger D Davis wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 01, 2003 at 16:51:51, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>20 years ago, an home computer, who run a chess engine, weight about 1600, now
>>>>>about 2600.
>>>>>What will be strenght of chess computer in 2013 ?
>>>>>
>>>>>Please give your oppinion ...
>>>>>(3100 is tempting :o) )
>>>>
>>>>Problem is, in the past there was something to shoot for: Grandmaster moves
>>>>definitely better than those produced by computers, even at shorter time
>>>>controls. However, soon we'll be in a phase where it's no longer clear that
>>>>grandmaster moves are superior. In fact, we might be entering a phase where
>>>>there are only stylistic differences between programs. That is, computers might
>>>>be able to find, for many positions, multiple good moves that all represent
>>>>perfect play because they all draw.
>>>
>>>That is not perfect play. The goal in chess is to beat your opponents(IE to get
>>>as many points as possible) and not to never lose against any opponent.
>>>In order to do that you have to pose him/it problems he/it is not able to solve.
>>>
>>>No one knows, because no one knows what the
>>>>whole chess tree looks like, and never will.
>>>>
>>>>roger
>>
>>If you have a chess program which NEVER EVER loses, then I think it will easily
>>surpass 3000 any time.
>>It will obviously present many problems too, as that ability is a necesity to
>>never ever lose.
>>S.Taylor
>
>No
>
>Suppose that the program choose random best move from the 32 piece tablebases.
>It is not going to win most of its games against GM's.
>
>It may even draw by repetition games because it is going to play weak drawing
>moves in the opening and later force repetition because it has no choice.
>
>Uri


hmmmm!
Most of the games will be like that?
S.Taylor



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