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Subject: Re: a question to Tord about detecting threats in null move

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 13:15:57 10/04/03

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On October 04, 2003 at 15:26:19, Arturo Ochoa wrote:

>>You may be right but what rating list are you talking about.
>>Movei play in a lot of tournaments of winboard program and I never saw results
>>of Mridul there.
>Maybe, you  dont know what he is talking about as always. The Mridul´s engine is
>a private engine. First, you should ask what is the status of this engine.

There are private engines that are in tournament that movei participates.
most of the engines are not private but not all of them.

I can give one example cerebro is playing in Loe's tournament and is private

Latest movei is also not public and the public version is significantly weaker.

The status of the engine is irrelevant to the fact that I know nothing of its

>Mridul only is caring for Official Tournaments in the future not for the
>Internet Tournaments Survey.

I like more tournament in the internet.
equal hardware when comparing based on rating in chess servers or in tournaments
is comparing when the programs do not have equal hardware.

I think that a fair tournament should at least allow programs to use machines
with the same price and it should not be a tournament of the people who have
more money.

I find it unfair when one program use 500 processors and another program does
not use the best hardware that it can use for the same price.

I do not find it unfair when one program use more than one processor and another
program does not do it  because parallel search is part of the work of the
programmer but money is not part of the work of the programmer so I think that
all programs should get the best machine that they can use for the same
price(otherwise the tournament is unfair).

>>Note that the programmer told me that he did not mean to offend me so there is
>>no problem with him.
>>There are problems with you because you always try to offend other people(not
>>only me).
>You are not a different exception because you always think that you have the
>reason with a prominent arrogance.

If you talk about the fact that I believe that I may do something better than
Crafty without using hash tables for pruning then it is still different than
saying that Crafty's evaluation is primitive.

I can agree that it may be better not to say what I believe about the future but
saying "your evaluation is primitive" is clearly worse than saying "I believe
that I can do better than you or even saying that you already have something

I did not claim that it is easy to do a better evaluation than Crafty like
vincent claimed when he claimed that the evaluation of Crafty is one day work.


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