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Subject: Re: Crafty19.4 vs. Yacelnx ends +9=4-7 games included (long post)

Author: ERIQ

Date: 13:25:34 10/05/03

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On October 05, 2003 at 14:40:56, Robert Hyatt wrote:

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>Even after your corrected results, the programs are reasonably close.  From
>observation, I think they are close enough that it takes a _really_ long
>match (>100 games at least) to draw any conclusions at all...
>
>Just a personal opinion, of course.
yes 10000 games *might* prove something but who has the time. I think I can make
a good guess at this situation. I think based all of my matches for these two
engines It might be fair to say that crafty is about 100 Pt's. higher now.

I don't just start the match and then go to sleep I watch a good many of the
games and I have noticed that in my first match crafty18.x it would lose badly
in all but the opening at fast Tc using gcc2.95 to compile it. At 19.1 I noticed
it holding it's own in the middle game and then losing endgame's using same
compiler. I then moved to gcc33 and wow crafty ups the heat and is now looking
alittle better in the middle game which kept it out of trouble in the endgame
even at fast time controls.

I then got crafty 19.4 compiled after about pulling out all of my hair,(BTW
please fix the damm makefile) now I have no hair left :) so ok now crafty is
creating winning positions in middle game and does not have to worry at all in
endgame. To me just watching this I feel like crafty went up about 50Pt's. in
the middle. But at slow Tc crafty has been the best since 19.1 and I don't even
have tablebases yet!.

I could play a slower match but I think the beatings would only get worse. It
would also seem to me that crafty likes more speed so when I go dual I will have
no equal. I really hate to say this, as yace has been my favorite free engine
for awhile and still is, but it is nolonger the king on my box :(



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