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Subject: Re: Tournament results

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 10:03:10 11/07/98

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On November 07, 1998 at 12:19:43, blass uri wrote:

>
>On November 07, 1998 at 09:17:47, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>>On November 06, 1998 at 23:56:57, Mark Young wrote:
>>
>>>>            H7b    J5     R10    F5     TOTAL    %   Played
>>>>Hiarcs 7b   ---     4      7      8      19    63.3    30
>>>>Junior 5     6     ---     5     4.5    15.5   51.7    30
>>>>Rebel 10     3      5     ---    5.5    13.5   45.0    30
>>>>Fritz 5      2     5.5    4.5    ---     12    40.0    30
>>
>>Your results is exactly what i get , my results are a little weaker for fritz,
>>would say 35-40% when I play with my fritz5 manually.
>>
>>So YOUR fritz is not stronger than mine ! :-)))
>>
>>Only when you let it play in sweden, it gets better elo's.
>
>Fritz5 did not play in sweden against these strong opponents and they are not at
>the least(Junior5 is going to be in the least and I think it is going to be in
>the first place in the next ssdf list)
>
>>
>>>>- Fritz 5 simply didn't have a chance and was outplayed by H7b in all phases of
>>>>the game. Fritz drew 4 games, lost 6 and won none.
>>
>>This is exactly what the normal customer gets. what we all get when we buy it
>>legally and for money, and of course this disapoints any customer.
>
>Fritz5 scored less than 50% against Hiarcs6 in the ssdf games and Hiarcs7 is
>better than hiarcs6.
>I do not think that this dissapoint any customer because most of the customers
>did not buy fritz5 because of the first place in the ssdf list but because of
>other reasons.
>
>You can use it for training  and there are many interesting options in this
>program.
>
>It is also an engine for some good programs like hiarcs and now nimzo.

Fritz 5 is also a very strong engine on its own. It has the most terrific punch
I have seen on a micro.

It got crushed by Hiarcs 7 in my tournament, and maybe 10 more games would give
a different result. Who believes that 10 games are enough to call Fritz 5 weak
when there are hundreds that prove the opposite?

>>This will hopefully explain why the customers get betrayed...
>I do not feel betrayed by chessbase

I still believe that Fritz 5 (or Junior 5) is overall the program of choice.
Betrayed? What a joke...

Enrique



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