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Subject: Re: beyond 3000+

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:27:09 10/06/03

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On October 06, 2003 at 10:23:00, Torstein Hall wrote:

>On October 06, 2003 at 09:29:56, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On October 06, 2003 at 02:24:39, Peter Hegger wrote:
>>
>>>On October 06, 2003 at 01:26:31, swaminathan natarajan wrote:
>>>
>>>>in future can player or computer go beyond 3000+ rating?
>>>>is it possible to achieve it?
>>>>i heard from chessbase that most of the players had gone beyond 3000+ in a
>>>>single tournament(team chess)
>>>
>>>Hello,
>>>It will be difficult for a human to go over 3000 FIDE. Though humans have had
>>>TPR's of over 3000 in individual tournaments, it is exceedingly difficult to do
>>>it on a consistent enough basis to get an actual 3000+ FIDE rating. Humans, even
>>>ones like Fischer, Kasparov or Kramnik have never been within 149 points of 3000
>>>FIDE. It will take someone much better than them to get that last 149. I don't
>>>see that happening for a long, long time.
>>>Computer on the other hand, can always be improved. I think they will get to
>>>3000 in the next 5-10 years and definetely before any human does.
>>
>>
>>I could envision a chess player that is as strong at chess as Marion Tinsley
>>was at checkers.  If a player only loses a couple of games over a 20 year
>>period, he's going to most likely have a 3000+ rating, again assuming that
>>he matches Tinsley's overall performance and not drawing _every_ game.
>
>Kasparov may have been close to that in long periods during the last 20 years.
>If I remember right he never exceede 2800 something in ELo
>
>Torstein


It depends on who you play.  IE if he had produced his results against 2700
opponents exclusively (IE playing the top few players only, as Marion Tinsley
did) then he would likely have been above 2900.  But he also has to play
2500-2600 players as well, and those hurt.



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