Author: Slater Wold
Date: 11:46:14 10/06/03
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On October 06, 2003 at 14:30:20, Dann Corbit wrote: >On October 06, 2003 at 13:59:30, Slater Wold wrote: > >>On October 06, 2003 at 13:56:33, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On October 06, 2003 at 13:51:29, Slater Wold wrote: >>> >>>>[D]8/6NK/8/1Bk5/P5q1/8/8/8 w - - 0 107 >>>> >>>>A lot of engines, after a lot of time can see this is lost. >>>> >>>>Crafty cannot. >>>> >>>>Any ideas on how to fix this? Other than waiting for Eugene to make the TB? :) >>> >>>Are you sure that it is lost? >>> >>>What is the sequence of moves that wins for black? >> > >This indicates that Rg8 loses. >How about Kh6? Another engines "proof": ------------ changing mode... ------------ changing mode... 00:00:00 d->04 +0.74 d5c4 d8d6 g1f2 g7g6 00:00:00 d->06 +0.87 d5c4 d8d6 d1d6 c7d6 c1d1 d6b6 00:00:00 d->07 +0.77 d5c4 g7g6 h5f3 e7f5 e3e4 d8d1 c1d1 f5d4 00:00:01 d->08 +0.70 d5c4 g7g6 h5f3 e7f5 c4d3 f5e7 d1d2 b7b5 d3a6 00:00:01 d->08 +0.71 d5e4! 00:00:01 d->08 +0.76 d5e4 d8d1 c1d1 f7f5 e4d3 g7g6 d3c4 g8g7 h5f3 e7c6 c4b5 00:00:03 d->09 +0.66 d5e4 f7f5 e4d3 g7g6 d3c4 g8g7 h5h4 d8d6 d1d6 c7d6 00:00:03 d->09 +0.67 d5c4! 00:00:03 d->09 +0.71 d5c4 g7g6 h5f3 d8d1 c1d1 e7f5 f3e4 f5d6 e4e5 f8d8 00:00:04 d->09 +0.72 c1c5! 00:00:05 d->09 +1.09 c1c5 c7b6 c5c3 e7d5 d1d5 d8d5 h5d5 f8d8 d5h5 g8f7 00:00:06 d->10 +0.79 c1c5? 00:00:06 d->10 +0.77 c1c5 c7b6 c5c3 e7d5 d1d5 d8d5 h5d5 f8d8 d5h5 d8d2 h5f5 00:00:08 d->10 +0.78 d5c4! 00:00:13 d->10 +0.80 d5c4 e7g6 d1d8 f8d8 c1d1 d8e8 h5h3 c7b6 h3f5 e8e3 c4f7 00:00:30 d->11 +0.64 d5c4 g7g6 h5f3 d8d1 c1d1 f8e8 00:00:31 d->11 +0.65 c1c5! 00:00:36 d->11 +1.65 c1c5!! 00:00:45 d->11 +1.77 c1c5 c7b8 d5e4 d8d1 h5d1 f8d8 d1e2 g7g6 b3b4 f7f5 e2c4 g8f8 e4d3 d8d4 00:01:01 d->12 +1.52 c1c5 c7b8 d5e4 g7g6 d1d8 f8d8 h5f3 b8d6 b3b4 b7b6 c5c4 d6d2 g4h5 00:02:07 d->13 +1.70 c1c5 c7b8 d5e4 g7g6 d1d8 b8d8 h5f3 d8d2 g1f1 f7f5 e4b7 d2d3 f1f2 d3b3 00:03:02 d->14 +1.59 c1c5 c7b8 d5e4 g7g6 h5e2 d8d1 e2d1 f8d8 00:09:14 d->15 +1.67 c1c5 c7b8 d5e4 g7g6 d1d8 b8d8 h5f3 d8d2 g2g4 f8b8 g1f1 d2h2 e4b7 f7f5 g4g5 g5f4 00:09:49 d->07 -1.31 h7g8 c5b4 b5e8 b4a5 e8f7 g4c8 g7e8 c8c5 e8c7 TBHits:193 00:09:50 d->08 -1.30 h7g8 g4c8 g7e8 c5d4 g8g7 c8f5 e8f6 d4e5 f6e8 f5f6 TBHits:321 00:09:50 d->08 -1.30 h7g8 g4c8 g7e8 c5d4 g8g7 c8f5 e8f6 d4e5 f6e8 f5f6 TBHits:329 00:09:53 d->09 -1.33 h7g8 g4g5 g8f7 g5f4 f7e6 f4e4 e6f6 e4d4 f6g6 d4g4 g6f6 g4d4 TBHits:1107 00:09:54 d->09 -1.33 h7g8 g4g5 g8f7 g5f4 f7e6 f4e4 e6f6 e4d4 f6g6 d4g4 g6f6 g4d4 TBHits:1424 ------------ changing mode... ------------ changing mode... 00:00:00 d->07 -1.31 h7g8 c5b4 b5e8 b4a5 e8f7 g4c8 g7e8 c8c5 e8c7 TBHits:193 00:00:00 d->08 -1.30 h7g8 g4c8 g7e8 c5d4 g8g7 c8f5 e8f6 d4e5 f6e8 f5f6 TBHits:321 00:00:00 d->08 -1.30 h7g8 g4c8 g7e8 c5d4 g8g7 c8f5 e8f6 d4e5 f6e8 f5f6 TBHits:329 00:00:01 d->09 -1.33 h7g8 g4g5 g8f7 g5f4 f7e6 f4e4 e6f6 e4d4 f6g6 d4g4 g6f6 g4d4 TBHits:1107 00:00:01 d->09 -1.33 h7g8 g4g5 g8f7 g5f4 f7e6 f4e4 e6f6 e4d4 f6g6 d4g4 g6f6 g4d4 TBHits:1424 00:00:03 d->10 -1.34 h7g8 c5d6 g8f7 g4f4 f7g6 d6e5 g7e8 f4g4 g6f7 g4e6 TBHits:2227 00:00:06 d->10 -1.33 h7h6! TBHits:3146 00:00:09 d->10 -1.32 h7h6 g4f4 h6g6 c5d6 g7e8 d6e6 b5c6 f4f5 g6h6 f5c5 e8g7 e6e5 c6g2 c5d4 TBHits:4345 00:00:14 d->10 -1.32 h7h6 g4f4 h6g6 c5d6 g7e8 d6e6 b5c6 f4f5 g6h6 f5c5 e8g7 e6e5 c6g2 c5d4 TBHits:6485 00:00:22 d->11 -1.33 h7h6 g4f4 h6g6 c5d6 g7e8 d6e6 e8g7 e6e5 g7e8 f4f5 g6g7 e5e6 b5c4 e6e7 c4b5 f5g5 g7h6 TBHits:9242 00:00:22 d->11 -1.33 h7h6 g4f4 h6g6 c5d6 g7e8 d6e6 e8g7 e6e5 g7e8 f4f5 g6g7 e5e6 b5c4 e6e7 c4b5 f5g5 g7h6 TBHits:9426 00:00:37 d->12 -1.40 h7h6 c5d6 g7h5 g4e6 h6g5 d6e5 g5h4 e6e7 h4h3 e7a3 h3h4 a3b4 h4h3 b4c3 h3h4 c3d4 h4g5 d4g1 h2h1 TBHits:16283 00:00:38 d->12 -1.39 g7e8! TBHits:16561 00:01:00 d->12 -1.40 h7h6 c5d6 g7h5 g4e6 h6g5 d6e5 g5h4 e6e7 h4h3 e7a3 h3h4 a3b4 h4h3 b4c3 h3h4 c3d4 h4g5 d4g1 h2h1 TBHits:27834 00:01:00 d->12 -1.39 h7g8! TBHits:28391 00:01:02 d->12 -1.33 h7g8 c5d6 g8f7 g4f3 f7g6 f3e4 g6f7 e4f4 f7g6 f4g3 g6f6 g3h4 f6g6 h4h3 g6f7 TBHits:29135 00:01:02 d->12 -1.33 h7g8 c5d6 g8f7 g4f3 f7g6 f3e4 g6f7 e4f4 f7g6 f4g3 g6f6 g3h4 f6g6 h4h3 g6f7 TBHits:29183 00:01:10 d->13 -1.33 h7g8 c5d6 g8f7 g4f3 f7g6 f3e4 g6f7 e4f4 f7g6 f4g3 g6f6 g3h4 f6f7 h4f2 f7g6 d6e7 g7e8 f2f4 g6h5 TBHits:34830 00:01:11 d->13 -1.33 h7g8 c5d6 g8f7 g4f3 f7g6 f3e4 g6f7 e4f4 f7g6 f4g3 g6f6 g3h4 f6f7 h4f2 f7g6 d6e7 g7e8 f2f4 g6h5 TBHits:35697 00:01:32 d->14 -1.33 h7g8 c5d6 g8f7 g4f3 f7g6 f3e4 g6f7 e4f4 f7g6 f4g3 g6f6 g3h4 f6f7 h4f2 f7g6 d6d5 b5d7 f2g3 g6f6 g3e5 f6g6 d5c5 d7e6 TBHits:51583 00:01:35 d->14 -1.33 h7g8 c5d6 g8f7 g4f3 f7g6 f3e4 g6f7 e4f4 f7g6 f4g3 g6f6 g3h4 f6f7 h4f2 f7g6 d6d5 b5d7 f2g3 g6f6 g3e5 f6g6 d5c5 d7e6 TBHits:53320 00:02:38 d->15 -1.37 h7g8 g4g6 b5e8 g6f6 e8b5 c5d5 TBHits:100027 00:02:44 d->15 -1.37 h7g8 g4g6 b5e8 g6f6 e8b5 c5d5 TBHits:104529 00:04:53 d->16 -1.37 h7g8 g4g6 b5e8 g6f6 e8b5 c5d5 g8h7 f6g5 h7g8 d5e5 g8f7 TBHits:199540 00:04:57 d->16 -1.37 h7g8 g4g6 b5e8 g6f6 e8b5 c5d5 g8h7 f6g5 h7g8 d5e5 g8f7 TBHits:202017 00:05:24 d->17 -1.67 h7g8? TBHits:220157 00:05:34 d->17 -3.25 h7g8?? TBHits:225235 00:09:48 d->17 -1.74 h7g8 g4g6 b5e8 g6f6 e8b5 c5d5 g7e8 f6e7 e8g7 d5e5 g7e8 e7a7 g8f8 a7h7 b5e2 h7h6 f8g8 e5e6 e8g7 e6f6 g7h5 f6e7 e2d1 h6e6 g8h7 e6d5 a4a5 TBHits:370290 00:10:19 d->17 -1.74 h7g8 g4g6 b5e8 g6f6 e8b5 c5d5 g7e8 f6e7 e8g7 d5e5 g7e8 e7a7 g8f8 a7h7 b5e2 h7h6 f8g8 e5e6 e8g7 e6f6 g7h5 f6e7 e2d1 h6e6 g8h7 e6d5 a4a5 TBHits:389604 00:10:36 d->18 -2.04 h7g8? TBHits:400670 00:10:36 d->18 -3.25 h7g8?? TBHits:400740 00:19:03 d->18 -4.05 h7g8 g4g6 b5e8 g6f6 e8b5 c5d5 g7e8 f6e7 e8g7 d5e5 g7e8 e7a7 g8f8 a7b7 e8g7 TBHits:648630 00:20:39 d->18 -4.05 h7g8 g4g6 b5e8 g6f6 e8b5 c5d5 g7e8 f6e7 e8g7 d5e5 g7e8 e7a7 g8f8 a7b7 e8g7 TBHits:699240 00:21:30 d->19 -4.35 h7g8? TBHits:727181 00:22:06 d->19 -5.35 h7g8?? TBHits:743638 00:25:55 d->19 -10.20 h7g8??? TBHits:832038
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