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Subject: Re: Simple position too difficult for me?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 15:03:06 10/06/03

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On October 06, 2003 at 14:51:53, Ricardo Gibert wrote:

>On October 06, 2003 at 14:25:09, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On October 06, 2003 at 13:13:15, Leen Ammeraal wrote:
>>
>>>The testsuite mes400.epd contains the line
>>>
>>>[D]1k6/2p5/B7/4Np2/8/8/6p1/6Kb w - - bm Nc6+; id "MES.0372";
>>>
>>>indicating that only Nc6+ is the best move.
>>>I don't understand this.
>>>I suppose the result is a draw. Am I right?
>>>If so, is Bd3 not just as good?
>>>Or can Black win in that case? If so, how?
>>>
>>>Leen
>>
>>
>>After Nc6 where does black go?  And once he goes there, what
>>happens next?  think zugzwang and you'll see the answer.
>>
>>IE once the black king goes to a8, white doesn't move the bishop or
>>pawn.  Black can only push the f-pawn.  White king goes between g1
>>and f2.
>
>
>Wrong. 1.Nc6+ Ka8 2.Kf2? g1=Q+ 3.Kxg1 Bxc6. White cannot move Kf2 until Pf3 gets
>played.
>
>
>  Eventually black has to play g1=Q, white takes the queen
>>with the king and now black can only move the bishop between h1 and
>>g2, unless he chooses to give up the f-pawn also.  Once that happens,
>>it is a simple drawn KBN vs KBP and white can force the trade of the
>>pawn for a piece if he wants.  It ends up a draw.
>
>
>Wrong again. 1.Nc6 Ka8 2.Bc8 f4 3.Bh8 f3 4.Kf2 g1=Q+ 5.Kxg1 Bg2 6.Kh2 -+

I believe that is a draw, assuming move 3 is Bh3 and not Bh8.

Bxg2 seems good enough there.



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