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Subject: Re: Interesting article at Chess Base website

Author: George Tsavdaris

Date: 03:31:38 10/08/03

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On October 08, 2003 at 05:40:40, Torstein Hall wrote:

>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1229
>
>Is realy programs getting stronger compared to humnan GM's?
>
>(In my view they are)
>
>Torstein

"Although computers obviously must be improving in recent years, the strongest
humans seem to also be improving at about the same rate."

a) The ELO performance in the graph, of the strongest human player(Kasparov),
in the last 6 years is almost a straight line that stays the same.
b) The SSDF maximum ELO performance in the graph is inceasing in the last 6
years, although the way SSDF handles it's rating list makes  this less important
for belying his above statement.
c)Every year, we have an increase at the plies a chess-computer searches at a
given time(due to improved search techniques and hardware speed) and also
programmers add more knowledge at chess-computers. Humans can't improve so
much every year to compensate this one(or two) plies and in fact they improve
only 5 % - 10 % in relation with comps.

 Due to the above 3 reasons and especially the c) , his statement seems to
me wrong.
 It's ridiculous to say that computers are not getting stronger compared to
GM's (Mr Jeff Sonas didn't(yet?) said that). And it's ridiculous to say
that: "I don't believe that computers will inevitably surpass the top humans".
This thing is inevitable.
 Of course this has nothing to do with todays strength of computers, as indeed
may be lower, than that of top GM's.






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