Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 03:54:06 11/08/98
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On November 08, 1998 at 01:20:40, Bruce Moreland wrote: >When I saw one of the founders imply once again that Chris left CCC voluntarily >(the r.g.c.c quote above, actually), and I saw Chris respond that he was in fact >banned, I responded, in part because Chris is right. He is banned. [...] >Perhaps there is still a way to legitimately avoid calling this a ban, but I >can't see how. To me it is very clear what Chris' status is, and I do not for >the life of me understand why I have seen repeated denials from members of the >CCC founders group since this ban was imposed. >It is hard to discuss this without mentioning the people who did it, and it's >not pleasant stuff. But I don't think that merely mentioning the stuff >constitutes a personal attack. >It's not like I bring this stuff up every day, or I bring it up for fun, either. > When I brought it up in CCC in September, it was because Moritz made the >following statement (28210.txt), describing Chris as a person who "quits CCC >voluntarily short of being banned because he declares himself incompatible with >it". I thought that was an intriguing statement, so I asked him some questions >about this, and got involved in a brief discussion of Chris' status. I was >trying to get to the bottom of things in order that I could have an opinion >about Chris' situation here. I mean, if he left voluntarily, then why can't he >just create a new account? right. >And I brought it up in r.g.c.c. because there was an exchange happening, where a >founder's group member was bludgeoning Chris with this again. In that case I >wanted to do two things: I wanted to express that Chris is right, because he >is, and I wanted to explain that I wasn't going to try to get his ban lifted, >because I think he's done other nasty things here recently under a different >name. This is the post that got me in big trouble most recently. > >bruce Give him back his account (i am sure he will not WANT it , he will say: I don't want to have it back) and than the story is over. CCC has offered him to come back, and he will maybe say: oh - i thank you, but i do not want it. And than maybe we have a clear situation again. Hopefully before christmas.
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