Author: Uri Blass
Date: 00:00:12 10/14/03
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On October 13, 2003 at 20:45:40, Mike Byrne wrote: >On October 13, 2003 at 20:22:54, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On October 13, 2003 at 20:16:41, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>>Believe it or NOT Ruffian 1.0.5 is much better than Fritz 8, Hiarcs 9,Shredder 7 >>>and Chess Tiger 15 and possibly Junior 8. I will post some games tomorrow, but >>>my opinion is that Ruffian 1.0.5 should have been a commercial program. >>> >>>Pichard >> >>Ruffian1.0.5 failed to win WBEC. >> >>Deep Sjeng won it so I do not believe that Ruffian1.0.5 is better than Fritz8 or >>Shredder7. >> >>Uri > >Uri, > >You are so anti-Ruffian , it's not even funny. Yes Deep Sjeng won - by ONE >point out of 84 games. The games are not even full length 40/120 20/60 etc,. > >1: DeepSjeng 1.5 56.5 / 84 >2: Ruffian 1.0.5 55.5 / 84 > >So to say "Deep Sjeng won it so I do not believe that Ruffian 1.0.5 is better >than Fritz8 or Shredder7" is Ruffian bashing. > >Michael the difference between 40/40 and 40/120 is not so big. Your results also did not convince me that Ruffian is better than Fritz8 or shredder7(I see no significant difference between the results of Ruffian and Fritz and shredder). http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?320811 I know that Ruffian earns more from time relative to free engines. I do not know if the same happen relative to commercial engines. I know that you use the same book. Maybe you can try the following test for Ruffian that was suggested in the past by vincent when I claimed that Ruffian is not better than Fritz8: 1)Give Ruffian to play a match against Fritz when you use Shredder's book for both engines. 2)For every opening use the same opening with opposite colors(my suggestion). 3)use long time control. Vincent believes that Ruffian is going to win at long time control. I am interested to know the facts both for blitz and for long time control but I have no computer time to devote for that task. It may be also interesting to repeat the experiment for shredder when both sides use Fritz's book. Uri
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