Author: Mike Byrne
Date: 16:44:43 10/14/03
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On October 14, 2003 at 03:00:12, Uri Blass wrote: >On October 13, 2003 at 20:45:40, Mike Byrne wrote: > >>On October 13, 2003 at 20:22:54, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On October 13, 2003 at 20:16:41, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>> >>>>Believe it or NOT Ruffian 1.0.5 is much better than Fritz 8, Hiarcs 9,Shredder 7 >>>>and Chess Tiger 15 and possibly Junior 8. I will post some games tomorrow, but >>>>my opinion is that Ruffian 1.0.5 should have been a commercial program. >>>> >>>>Pichard >>> >>>Ruffian1.0.5 failed to win WBEC. >>> >>>Deep Sjeng won it so I do not believe that Ruffian1.0.5 is better than Fritz8 or >>>Shredder7. >>> >>>Uri >> >>Uri, >> >>You are so anti-Ruffian , it's not even funny. Yes Deep Sjeng won - by ONE >>point out of 84 games. The games are not even full length 40/120 20/60 etc,. >> >>1: DeepSjeng 1.5 56.5 / 84 >>2: Ruffian 1.0.5 55.5 / 84 >> >>So to say "Deep Sjeng won it so I do not believe that Ruffian 1.0.5 is better >>than Fritz8 or Shredder7" is Ruffian bashing. >> >>Michael > >the difference between 40/40 and 40/120 is not so big. > >Your results also did not convince me that Ruffian is better than Fritz8 >or shredder7(I see no significant difference between the results of Ruffian and >Fritz and shredder). > >http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?320811 > >I know that Ruffian earns more from time relative to free engines. >I do not know if the same happen relative to commercial engines. > >I know that you use the same book. >Maybe you can try the following test for Ruffian that was suggested in the past >by vincent when I claimed that Ruffian is not better than Fritz8: > >1)Give Ruffian to play a match against Fritz when you use Shredder's book for >both engines. >2)For every opening use the same opening with opposite colors(my suggestion). Excellent suggestion - I have done that ocassionally. >3)use long time control. > >Vincent believes that Ruffian is going to win at long time control. > >I am interested to know the facts both for blitz and for long time control but I >have no computer time to devote for that task. > >It may be also interesting to repeat the experiment for shredder when both sides >use Fritz's book. > >Uri
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