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Subject: Re: Dell Axim x5 advanced ( hand held 400mzh 64 mb sdram computer)

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 18:47:30 10/14/03

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On October 14, 2003 at 12:10:50, Roy Eassa wrote:

>On October 13, 2003 at 21:04:36, Mike Byrne wrote:
>
>>On October 13, 2003 at 08:28:08, Joseph Merolle wrote:
>>
>>>I was wondering if this guy will be able to play a stroung game of chess? Most
>>>of all I want to make sure It has the cumpatability with pocket Fritz? IF not
>>>which hand held will be the stroungest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I also wanted to know if anyone has any info on Oct 8 gui upgrade For Shredder
>>>and Frtiz 8?
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks Inadvanced for any help you can provied!
>>>
>>>
>>>Regards Joseph
>>
>>Pocket Fritz 2 will work fine.  So will Genius 1.5 in Pocket Grandmaster 2.1 for
>>about half the money.  Pocket Fritz 1 (the original) will NOT work in the
>>current Dell Axim shipping with WM 2003.
>>
>>IMO, the engines are almost equal (Genius 1.5/PGM Ruffian/PF2) on a Dell Axim
>>Wm2003. (thus far).  For variety of play  get at least PGM and CG - 4 engines
>>for ~$50.  PF2 is ~ Shredder 7, which is no slouch either, but is a little more
>>dear @ ~$50.  Supposedly has Online searchable database, but I do not use the
>>Axim for getting online.
>
>
>I don't recall seeing any significant number of games played BETWEEN the top
>programs on the PocketPC.  I guess it's difficult because the moves must be made
>manually and most people don't have 2 PPCs?

SSDF tested the Palm Chess Tiger - why not the Pocket PC.  I have played a few
games between them on a Axim and many against them.  The latest Genius (v1.5) is
so fast(nps) on a Axim under Wm2003 (PPC 2003) that I believe it's pretty close.

Prior to CG 1.5, I always felt (subjective) that the pecking order on my Ipaq
with 206 Arm processor was:

PF2
PGM
PCG 1.4


I am not so sure now on my Dell Axim w X/scale 400 Mhz.  Pocvket Chess Genius
1.5 sees between 60K to 120K nps on my Axim - geneally its nps is 3x than Pf2
and PGM in any position.  It solves many positions faster than PF2 and PGM.  It
was not 3x, on my Ipaq - I'm not sure what it was - but it was not 3x.  I should
be able test soon how much faster 1.5 is than 1.4 on xscale soon.  I believe all
3 are stronger than 2500 USCF on a Dell Axim (Rom A05 WM2003 400 Mhz) and I have
been playing with chess computers  along time (>20 years).  I have played 5
games with PF2 A9xim against CG3 (P4 1.7 Ghz) and it's leading 2-1-1 (Game/30).
I have played 2 games PF2 vs PCG (game 30/ pondering off) and it's tied 1-1.


>
>Couldn't somebody devise a way to have two PPC programs play each other without
>human intervention for each move?  Either on 2 separate units or one 1 unit?
>(Plugged into AC, battery drainage shouldn't be a problem.)
>
>Then we could get a better idea of exactly how Genius 1.5, Ruffian, and PF2
>compare on current PPC hardware.



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