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Subject: Re: Interesting position for engine eval testing

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 22:23:33 10/14/03

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On October 15, 2003 at 00:53:32, Jim Monaghan wrote:

>Here's an interesting position for engine eval testing:
>
>[D]3r1brk/pp3p1p/8/2pP1P2/2Pn4/6nP/PP4B1/R2Q1RK1 w - - 0 26
>
>
>It would be interesting to see what different engines see and conclude about the
>above position. Will the score consistently drop over time? Could White have
>held?

I believe at the very least, it's a draw.  But I didn't look at it too terribly
deep.

Here's what I got with List 504, smarthink, and S7 (P4 3Ghz - 256MB HT):

New game
3r1brk/pp3p1p/8/2pP1P2/2Pn4/6nP/PP4B1/R2Q1RK1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by List 504:

1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Qh5 Nd6 3.Rac1
  +-  (3.91)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  8kN
1.Re1--
  +-  (3.51)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  13kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Qh5 Bd6 3.Qxf7 Nf3+ 4.Kf1
  +-  (3.77)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  31kN
1.Re1--
  +-  (3.37)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  49kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.Qh5 Rdf8 4.Rae1
  +-  (3.31)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  83kN
1.Rf2!
  +-  (3.71)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  139kN
1.Rf2 Ngxf5 2.Qh5 Nd6 3.Re1 Rd7 4.b3
  +-  (3.84)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  171kN
1.Rf2 Ngxf5 2.Qh5 Nd6 3.Rxf7 Nxf7 4.Qxf7 Rb8
  +-  (3.68)   Depth: 8   00:00:00  333kN
1.Rf2--
  +-  (3.28)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  684kN
1.Rf2 Bd6 2.Rd2 Ngxf5 3.b3 a6 4.Rd3 b5 5.Qh5
  +-  (3.11)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  1002kN
1.Rf2 Bd6 2.b4 Rde8 3.bxc5 Nde2+ 4.Rxe2 Nxe2+ 5.Kh1 Bxc5 6.f6 Bd6
  +-  (3.01)   Depth: 10   00:00:02  3503kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.Qf1 Rdf8 4.Rg4 a6 5.Re1 b5
  +-  (3.06)   Depth: 10   00:00:03  4179kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.Qf1 Rde8 4.Rxe8 Rxe8 5.Re1 Rg8 6.Qf2 Kg7
  +-  (3.00)   Depth: 11   00:00:05  7080kN
1.Rf2 Bd6 2.Rd2 Ngxf5 3.Qh5 Rdf8 4.Re1 a6 5.a4 b6 6.h4
  +-  (3.06)   Depth: 11   00:00:06  8273kN
1.Rf2--
  +-  (2.66)   Depth: 12   00:00:10  13658kN
1.Rf2 Re8 2.f6 Nde2+ 3.Rxe2 Nxe2+ 4.Kf2 Bd6 5.Bf3 Rg1 6.Qxg1 Nxg1 7.Rxg1 a6
  +-  (2.21)   Depth: 12   00:00:16  21423kN
1.Re1!
  +-  (2.61)   Depth: 12   00:00:16  22463kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.Qf1 Rg3 4.Rxd4
  +-  (2.95)   Depth: 12   00:00:19  26586kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.Qf1 Rg7 4.Rg4 Rdg8 5.Rxg7 Kxg7 6.Re1 Ng3 7.Qf2 f5
  +-  (2.68)   Depth: 13   00:00:33  44209kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 b5 3.Rg4 Bd6 4.Qf1 bxc4 5.Rd1 Rb8 6.Rd2 Rb4 7.Qf2 Rb7
  +-  (2.56)   Depth: 14   00:01:34  125280kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 b5 3.Rg4 Bd6 4.Qf1 bxc4 5.Rd1 Rg7 6.Re1 Rdg8 7.Rxg7 Kxg7
8.Qxc4 a5
  +-  (2.54)   Depth: 15   00:03:40  291698kN

(,  15.10.2003)



List 504
3r1brk/pp3p1p/8/2pP1P2/2Pn4/6nP/PP4B1/R2Q1RK1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by smarthink:

1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.a4
  +-  (3.64)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.a4 Bd6
  +-  (3.63)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Qh5 Rg6 3.a4
  +-  (3.49)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Qh5 Rg6 3.a4 Bd6
  +-  (3.48)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  15kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.Qe1
  +-  (2.80)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  15kN
1.Rf2 Ngxf5
  +-  (2.81)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  15kN
1.Rf2 Ngxf5 2.Qd3 Rg3 3.Qe4 Nd6
  +-  (3.42)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  15kN
1.Rf2 Re8 2.f6 Nge2+ 3.Kf1 Bd6
  +-  (3.41)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  52kN
1.Rf2 Re8 2.f6 Nde2+ 3.Kh2 Bd6
  +-  (3.27)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  52kN
1.Rf2 Re8 2.f6 Nde2+ 3.Kh2 Bd6
  +-  (3.26)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  87kN
1.Rf2 Re8 2.Bf3 Nge2+ 3.Kh1 Ng3+ 4.Kh2 Ngxf5 5.a4 Bd6+
  +-  (2.67)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  87kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.b4
  +-  (2.68)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  87kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.b4 cxb4 4.a3 bxa3 5.Rxd4
  +-  (2.80)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  87kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.b4 cxb4 4.a3 bxa3 5.Rxd4 Ne3
  +-  (2.79)   Depth: 8   00:00:00  275kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.h4 a5 4.a3 Ng3 5.Rg4
  +-  (2.73)   Depth: 8   00:00:00  275kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.h4 a5 4.a3 Ng3 5.Rg4 Nge2+
  +-  (2.72)   Depth: 9   00:00:01  657kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.h4 a5 4.a3 a4 5.Rc1 Ng3 6.Rg4
  +-  (2.66)   Depth: 9   00:00:01  657kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.h4 Rg3
  +-  (2.65)   Depth: 10   00:00:04  1815kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.a4 Rg3 4.Ra3 Rxa3 5.bxa3 Ng3 6.Rg4 Rg8
  +-  (2.45)   Depth: 10   00:00:06  1815kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.a4 Rg6
  +-  (2.44)   Depth: 11   00:00:13  6140kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.a4 Rg6 4.Ra3 a5 5.Qd2 Rdg8 6.Rg4 Rxg4 7.hxg4 Rxg4 8.Qxa5
  +-  (2.51)   Depth: 11   00:00:15  6140kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.a4 Rg6 4.Ra3 Ng3 5.Rxd4 cxd4 6.Qxd4+ Kg8 7.Re3 Nf5
  +-  (2.50)   Depth: 12   00:00:27  12193kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.a4 Rg6 4.Ra3 Ng3 5.Rxd4 cxd4 6.Qxd4+ f6 7.Re3 Nf5 8.Qxa7
  +-  (2.37)   Depth: 12   00:00:33  12193kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.a4 Rg6 4.Ra3 Ng3 5.Rxd4 cxd4 6.Qxd4+ Kg8 7.Re3 Nf5
8.Qxa7 Nxe3
  +-  (2.36)   Depth: 13   00:01:19  35038kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Kh1 Ng3+ 3.Kh2 Bd6 4.Kg1 Rg6 5.Kf2 Rf6+ 6.Ke3 Rg8 7.Kd3 Rf2 8.Be4
f5 9.Bh1 Nxh1
  +-  (1.45)   Depth: 13   00:02:51  35038kN

(,  15.10.2003)



List 504
3r1brk/pp3p1p/8/2pP1P2/2Pn4/6nP/PP4B1/R2Q1RK1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 7.04:

1.Qg4 Rxg4 2.hxg4 Nxf1 3.Rxf1
  ±  (1.31)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
1.Qg4 Rxg4 2.hxg4 Nxf1 3.Rxf1
  -+  (-2.01)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
1.Qg4 Rxg4 2.hxg4 Nxf1 3.Rxf1
  -+  (-2.01)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
1.f6 Nxf1 2.Qxd4
  µ  (-0.92)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
1.f6 Nxf1 2.Qxd4 cxd4 3.Bxf1
  +-  (3.37)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
1.f6 Nxf1 2.Qxd4 cxd4 3.Bxf1
  +-  (3.50)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Qh5 Bd6 3.Rac1 f6
  +-  (4.25)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Qh5 Bd6 3.Rac1 f6
  +-  (4.25)   Depth: 1/6   00:00:00
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Qh5 Bd6 3.Rac1 f6
  +-  (4.16)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Qh5 Bd6 3.Rac1 f6
  +-  (4.16)   Depth: 3/5   00:00:00
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Qh5 Bd6 3.Rac1 f6
  +-  (3.98)   Depth: 4/5   00:00:00
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Qh5 Bd6 3.Rac1 f6
  +-  (3.98)   Depth: 5/5   00:00:00
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Qh5 Bd6 3.Rac1 Rg6 4.b4
  +-  (3.98)   Depth: 6/6   00:00:00
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Qh5 Nh4 3.Rac1 Nxg2 4.Qxh7+ Kxh7
  +-  (3.73)   Depth: 7/11   00:00:00  27kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bh6 3.Qh5 Be3+ 4.Kh2 f6
  +-  (3.56)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00  49kN
1.Rf2 Bd6 2.f6 Ne4 3.Rf1 Rg5 4.Kh1
  +-  (3.57)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00  65kN
1.Rf2 Bd6 2.Qd3 Rde8 3.Rc1
  +-  (3.72)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00  76kN
1.Rf2 Bd6 2.f6 Rde8 3.Rf1 Nxf1 4.Qxf1
  +-  (3.48)   Depth: 8/19   00:00:00  164kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bh6 3.Qh5 Ne3 4.Qe5+ Bg7 5.Qe7 Nxc4 6.Qxb7
  +-  (3.49)   Depth: 8/19   00:00:00  194kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bh6 3.Qh5 Ne3 4.Qe5+ Bg7 5.Qe7 Nxc4 6.Qxb7
  +-  (3.51)   Depth: 8/19   00:00:00  212kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.b4 Rg3 4.Rg4 Nf3+ 5.Kh1
  +-  (3.49)   Depth: 9/17   00:00:00  324kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Rg6 3.b4 b5 4.Qd3 Rg3 5.Rxd4 Rxd3 6.Rxd3 bxc4
  +-  (3.38)   Depth: 10/21   00:00:01  731kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bd6 3.Rc1 Rg6 4.Rc3 b6 5.Rg4 Re8 6.Be4
  +-  (3.45)   Depth: 11/27   00:00:03  1545kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Rg6 3.b4 b5 4.cxb5 Rxd5 5.Rg4 Ne3 6.Bxd5 Nxd1
  +-  (3.27)   Depth: 12/23   00:00:06  3311kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Rg6 3.Qd3 Rg3 4.Qf1 Nf3+ 5.Qxf3 Rxf3 6.Bxf3 Bg7 7.Rb1 Bd4+
8.Kh2 Kg7
  +-  (3.24)   Depth: 13/25   00:00:12  6592kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bh6 3.Qh5 Ng3 4.Qe5+ f6 5.Qxf6+ Bg7 6.Qe7 Nxe4 7.Qxe4 Rde8
8.Qd3
  +-  (2.99)   Depth: 14/33   00:00:28  14423kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Kf2 Rd6 3.Re4 Rf6 4.Bf3 Rg3 5.Bh5 Rxh3 6.Rxd4 cxd4 7.Qd3 Rxd3
  +-  (2.49)   Depth: 14/33   00:01:23  40669kN
1.Re1 Ngxf5 2.Re4 Bh6 3.Qd3 Rg3 4.Qf1 Rdg8 5.Rg4 R8xg4 6.hxg4 Rxg4 7.Re1 Be3+
8.Rxe3 Nxe3 9.b4 Nxf1
  +-  (2.15)   Depth: 14/39   00:03:01  89895kN

(,  15.10.2003)



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