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Subject: Re: Interesting position for engine eval testing

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:55:29 10/15/03

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On October 15, 2003 at 04:44:11, martin fierz wrote:

>On October 15, 2003 at 01:23:33, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>On October 15, 2003 at 00:53:32, Jim Monaghan wrote:
>>
>>>Here's an interesting position for engine eval testing:
>>>
>>>[D]3r1brk/pp3p1p/8/2pP1P2/2Pn4/6nP/PP4B1/R2Q1RK1 w - - 0 26
>>>
>>>
>>>It would be interesting to see what different engines see and conclude about the
>>>above position. Will the score consistently drop over time? Could White have
>>>held?
>>
>>I believe at the very least, it's a draw.  But I didn't look at it too terribly
>>deep.
>
>why do you believe that it's at the very least a draw? because all engines give
>a positive score on this position? i find it interesting that they all correct
>there score ever lower when searching deeper. would be interesting to see what
>happens when you continue...
>
>cheers
>  martin


My thinking would be this:  If black can't win _quickly_ the queen is going
to tell the tale over a longer game, and it can produce enough threats and
attack in so many directions, it will likely pick up a pawn here and there
if not more.  I've not seen many (or any that I can actually recall) games
where one side had a significant material advantage and still lost a long
struggle.  Queen sacs to force mate or whatever, yes.  But here, given the
choice, I think I'd rather have white, cramped as it is.



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