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Subject: Re: Interesting position for engine eval testing

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 08:04:06 10/15/03

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On October 15, 2003 at 10:55:29, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On October 15, 2003 at 04:44:11, martin fierz wrote:
>
>>On October 15, 2003 at 01:23:33, Slater Wold wrote:
>>
>>>On October 15, 2003 at 00:53:32, Jim Monaghan wrote:
>>>
>>>>Here's an interesting position for engine eval testing:
>>>>
>>>>[D]3r1brk/pp3p1p/8/2pP1P2/2Pn4/6nP/PP4B1/R2Q1RK1 w - - 0 26
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It would be interesting to see what different engines see and conclude about the
>>>>above position. Will the score consistently drop over time? Could White have
>>>>held?
>>>
>>>I believe at the very least, it's a draw.  But I didn't look at it too terribly
>>>deep.
>>
>>why do you believe that it's at the very least a draw? because all engines give
>>a positive score on this position? i find it interesting that they all correct
>>there score ever lower when searching deeper. would be interesting to see what
>>happens when you continue...
>>
>>cheers
>>  martin
>
>
>My thinking would be this:  If black can't win _quickly_ the queen is going
>to tell the tale over a longer game, and it can produce enough threats and
>attack in so many directions, it will likely pick up a pawn here and there
>if not more.  I've not seen many (or any that I can actually recall) games
>where one side had a significant material advantage and still lost a long
>struggle.  Queen sacs to force mate or whatever, yes.  But here, given the
>choice, I think I'd rather have white, cramped as it is.

That was my exact feeling.



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