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Subject: Re: Chessmaster and Mr. Slug

Author: odell hall

Date: 18:47:44 11/08/98

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On November 08, 1998 at 17:03:57, Reynolds Takata wrote:

>[Event "?"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "??.??.????"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Rebel6 P200pro G/30"]
>[Black "CM5555 P166mmx"]
>[Result "*"]
>[WhiteElo "?"]
>[BlackElo "?"]
>[ECO "C45"]
>
>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Bc5 5. Be3 Qf6 6. c3 Nge7 7. Bc4
>O-O 8. O-O d6 9. Nb5 Ne5 10. Nxc7 Bh3 11. gxh3 Qg6+ 12. Kh1 Qxe4+ 13. f3
>Qxe3 14. Nxa8 Nxc4 15. Re1 Qg5 16. Qe2 d5 17. b3 Rxa8 18. bxc4 Rd8 19.
>Nd2 Ng6 20. Rad1 Nf4 21. Qf1 Bf8 22. cxd5 Rxd5 23. Ne4 Qf5 24. Rxd5 Qxd5
>25. Rd1 Qc6 26. Rd8 f5 27. Ng3 Qxc3 28. Nxf5 Qc2 29. Ne7+ Kf7 30. Nc8 Qxa2
>31. Rd7+ Kf6 32. Rxb7 Bc5 33. Rc7 Qd5 34. Nxa7 Ne6 35. Rxc5 Qxc5 *
>


You are exactly right! Infact when chessmaster made the move 10..Bh3!! I and my
three friends were absolutely stunned!, that a computer could find such a move!.
As a experiment we took the position to our local club and tested it with the
states strongest player (2317) after ten minutes of thought he could not find
this move! Nor did he even consider it. It was almost scary to see a computer
make a move like this , as if a human brain was in the circuitry! Certainly the
move wasn't made based on pure calculation because the complications arising if
beyond even deepblue!!























>This post is for Mr Slug.
>
>Chessmaster has come up with a seeming novelty(Actually just extremely rare
>courtesy of L. Tamarkin my 5 mill datab didn't have it at all) in the move
>8...d6,  Though Nimzo98 has in book 9.f4 as a response.  There are a few games
>in million base (18 games) with 8...d6 played but they all miss the important
>point of 8...d6 which is to follow up 9.Nb5 Ne5 10. Nxc7 with the brilliant
>Bh3!.
>
>This thread was slightly lost because of various other arguements and Mr. Slug
>found it interesting as I.  For further comment refer to the thread.  I guess it
>is so interesting in that the move almost seems like an intuitive
>sacrifice(10...Bh3) though of course that's just assigning human qaulities to
>comps :).
>
>"Hi: I'm really disappointed in this unfortaunate long running thread, which is
>occurring because 1 guy resigns, and another just leaves.  I was really looking
>forward to continued speculation about make believe matches between the chess
>programs against Jon Schroer, and some Brilliant move that CM6000 keeps coming
>up with.  But I guess we won't be talking about any of that for a while, because
>all of this Bull-Shit is going on!"
>
>(mrslug - the inkompetent chess software addict!)



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