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Subject: Re: About prices...

Author: John Timm

Date: 20:34:39 11/08/98

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On October 31, 1998 at 11:18:56, Fernando Villegas wrote:

>On October 31, 1998 at 04:31:41, Larry S. Tamarkin wrote:
>
>>On October 31, 1998 at 02:13:59, John Timm wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On October 30, 1998 at 05:55:25, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>
>>>>I assume everything I say will not be good enough so I will make it short.
>>>
>>>>About prices...
>>>>
>>>>#1. Every date you pick for a price drop is never good for people who just
>>>>bought. The price had to fall (no choice, see below) so the sooner the
>>>>better meaning less victims of the price drop.
>>>>
>>>>#2. It was our intention to sell Rebel10 for the normal price you are used
>>>>to pay since years despite the fact there was a tendency to lower prices
>>>>for chess software.
>>>>
>>>>#3. We were unhappily surprised by the lowering of prices by two major
>>>>companies Mindscape and ChessBase. More over we saw this price drop
>>>>being advertised in all chess magazines at Rebel10's release time next
>>>>to our advertisement of $119.95.
>>>>
>>>....
>>>>
>>>>- Ed Schroder -
>>>>Author of REBEL10
>>>
>>>                                             I support your decision even if the
>>>majority does not.
>>>
>>>                  When Isaw that major whining had broken out on CCC about the
>>>price drop, my first reaction was that CCC had been largely taken over by aliens
>>>from a parallel universe where, unlike Earth:  (a) any commercial purchase
>>>entitles you to be treated as if you were the "best friend" of the seller, and
>>>(b) products never decrease in price due to market conditions.  Certainly, in
>>>that parallel universe, computer prices don't regularly drop 25-40% (for the
>>>same functionality) every 6 months, nor do airlines use computers to price
>>>tickets according to what the market will bear at any given hour of any given
>>>day, nor (readers can easily fill in the next 10,000 examples).
>>>
>>>
>>>                         On second thought, musing about aliens is hardly
>>>necessary since complaining about price changes that don't even apply to the
>>>complainer is as old as human nature. There is even a story in the Bible that is
>>>more or less directly on point (it isn't necessary to accord the Bible any
>>>religious significance to think that some of the parables display extraordinary
>>>insight into human nature). In the parable of the vineyard, the proprietor of
>>>the vineyard hires workers for the entire day for one shekel (a unit of money).
>>>The proprietor also hires workers as needed for the rest of the day at noon and
>>>3PM, at a fair price to be agreed on later. When it's time to pay up, the
>>>proprietor pays each worker a shekel, regardless of how long the worker labored.
>>>Naturally, those who worked the entire day complain loudly. The proprietor
>>>chides them gently, asking "Did you not receive everything for which you
>>>bargained?"
>>
>>
>>Hey wait a minute! - If I were one (or any)of those workers who had agreed to
>>work the whole day for just that one shekel, your darn right I'd be pissed as
>>Hell! that those other guys, who hadn't been there from the beginning were
>>getting that 1 shekel.  In fact, I'd probably have a whole lot of fellows who
>>were just as mad as I was, and we'd have every right to complain (or more!?).
>>And not only that, I'll bet all those guys who were working the whole day for
>>that 1 shekel may well have had this deal with the proprieter before.  Now you
>>tell me that after 'getting the shaft', by the proprietor, who they may have had
>>a very good working relationship with in the past, they should just 'turn the
>>other cheek', to use another biblical expression.  I don't think so.
>>
>>If they don't friggin kill the proprietor for his stupidity, the very least they
>>are going to do, is never be so foolish, as to work for him agian!, or buy his
>>product, to use one of the many posters anologies. - go figure...
>>
>>
>>>
>>>                                  Good parables work on many different religious
>>>and secular levels simultaneously (and this parable is one of the absolute
>>>best). Sometimes, if you listen carefully enough, a parable might even be about
>>>chess software pricing.
>>
>>Ya, you got that right:)
>>
>>mrslug - the inkompetent chess software addict!
>
>
>
>If I do not understand badly this little story, is an story about generosity and
>meaness. You get one schekel, you thought it was right or you have not made the
>deal, then another guy get the same for less work and then, so I see it, a
>generous man does not mind about that and even is happy for the luck of his
>brothers and the generosity he see in the boss, but if on the contrary you are a
>mean guy you are angry and count the beans. If I purchase something at 100 and
>the next day a friend or even a unknown guy get it at 50, or I am indifferent to
>that or I am glad the guy got a benefit. Why should I get angry? I was not
>deceived: I made the deal because it was fair to me at 100. And then conditions
>changed and the deal changed and another guy got a better deal. So what?  So is
>life. I just take my shcekel and purchase a beer and danse or fuck and I do not
>care a shit about the same schekel of the other guy.
>fernando


You understand the story very well indeed.
John Timm




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