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Subject: Re: New 80-bit Chess engine Gothic Vortex. Your opinion please.

Author: Russell Reagan

Date: 12:07:38 10/16/03

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Here's some more fuel for the fire. I emailed this guy.

I said:

"A good implementation of an array based move generator will be quite a bit
faster than a good implementation of a bitboard program, assuming 32-bit
hardware. Maybe even on 64-bit hardware."

He replied:

"Hello Russell,

I do not think you are correct. A bitboard operation executes so much faster.
This is why virtually all chess programs are bitboard based, and I know of
none that use an array move generator.

For example, I tested the following position on Zillions and on Vortex that
has just 3 pieces.

White Archbishop on a1
White King on a8
Black King on j1
White to move.

After 3 full days (72 hours) Zillions still shows a very high score.

After 1:17 minutes, the Vortex program announces a mate in 23 (which is 46
plies) on my 2.8 GHz Pentium 4, and it eventually SOLVES the entire ending in
6:56 improving it to a mate in 17.

The program reported searching 550,459 positions/second.

Zillions does not even come close to this.

--Ed"


He sounds kind of like the Anti-Vincent, "A bitboard operation executes so much
faster."

Virtually all chess programs are bitboard based? HE KNOWS OF NONE THAT ARE ARRAY
BASED???

Can anyone here top 550 Knps?



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