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Subject: From what I remember 262 is the HWM so far (NT)

Author: Les Fernandez

Date: 17:05:07 10/17/03

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On October 17, 2003 at 02:42:52, GuyHaworth wrote:

>
>I surveyed the history of the 'k-move rule' in:
>
>"Strategies for Constrained Optimisation", ICGA_J v23.1 pp9-20 (2000):
>
>Further information is welcome if there are any omissions.
>
>
>Ruy Lopez suggested a 50-move limit in Article 17 of his Chess Code of 1561,
>perhaps in the interests of his fellow coffee-house professionals who played for
>wagers. The 1883 London Tournament's rules, the basis of FIDE's rules today,
>were the first to state that a P-push or capture would zero the move count.
>
>In 1974, FIDE first enabled the 50-move rule to be varied.
>
>They did so, with 100-move clauses:
>
>    - in 1978 for KNNKP
>    - in 1982 for KRP(a2)KbBP(a3) after the Timman-Velimirovic game
>    - in 1984 for KRBKR.
>
>John Roycroft had argued for other endgames to be given more headroom but FIDE
>did not agree with his suggestions.
>
>By 1988, computer results were plentiful (Thompson), if not independently
>2nd-sourced, and endgame-specific limits were suggested. However, FIDE adopted a
>simpler stance, replacing the 100-move clauses by a 75-move clause for just six
>endgames:
>
>    - KBBKN
>    - KBBKQ
>    - KNNKP
>    - KNNKQ
>    - KQP(x7)KQ
>    - KRBKR
>
>KRPKBP with blocked Pawns ceased to be an exception at that time.
>
>Stiller discovered KRBKNN's maxDTC of 223 in 1991 and so, in 1992, FIDE gave up
>the chase and restored the universal 50-move limit.
>
>KRNKNN's maxDTC = 243 was found in 1996 (and 2nd-sourced by Ken Thompson in
>1999).
>
>
>In the much more common situation with Pawns on the board, the move count can
>still soar even with perfect play.  KNNKP has maxDTZ = 82, a result in:
>
>Tamplin & H, "Chess Endgames: Data and Strategy"
>ACG-10 Conference (ICGA event, Graz, Nov. 2003) Proceedings
>
>... and Marc Bourzutschky found, admittedly in a line minimaxing DTM(ate), a
>move-count going to 165 in KRRPKQ.  The actual maxDTZ of KRRPKQ is likely to be
>of that order.
>
>The Tamplin/H paper also surveys the DTC and DTZ50 stats, and gives examples
>where minimising moves to mate, conversion or P-push is exactly the wrong thing
>to do to preserve a win under the 50-move rule.
>
>
>
>One could argue that chess-engine authors have every opportunity to pick up the
>available EN DTM EGTs, or generate their own to DTM or another metric, and that
>therefore the 50-move rule need not apply in C-C tournaments such as the
>forthcoming ICGA WCCC event in Graz, Nov. 2003.
>
>However, if the rule is to be dispensed with, competing authors should be given
>reasonable notice of this.
>
>I guess KNNKP and KQPKQ are the most likely to occur over the board, and of
>these, KNNKP play is conspicuously the most affected by the 50-move rule.
>Again, the Tamplin/H paper gives the stats.
>
>It is unlikely that the maxDTZ = 243 of KRNKNN will be surpassed until 7-man
>EGTs are computed.  Establishing maxDTZ for 6-man P-endgames is however, a
>target.
>

262 is the highest I know of so far!!!

Les

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