Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 09:06:22 10/18/03
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On October 18, 2003 at 11:15:19, Uri Blass wrote: >On October 18, 2003 at 11:10:33, Drexel,Michael wrote: > >>On October 18, 2003 at 02:54:37, Thoralf Karlsson wrote: >> >>> 2 Junior 8.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz, 2784 >>>DpFrit7 A1200 24-16 Fritz 8 A1200 47.5-26.5 Hiarcs9 A1200 17-11 >>>Shred6P A1200 25.5-16.5 Junior7 A1200 23.5-16.5 Ruffian A1200 21.5-18.5 >>>Shre532 A1200 9-5 Gandal5 A1200 25.5-14.5 Shred5 K6-450 36-10 >>>Frit532 K6450 42.5-9.5 Nimz732 K6450 48.5-13.5 Hiar732 K6450 31-9 >>>Goliath K6450 8-1 Craf17.07 K62 13.5-4.5 >>> >>> 6 Deep Junior 8.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz, 2748 >>>Shr7.04 A1200 22-28 Fritz 7 A1200 9-11 CT 15.0 A1200 23.5-16.5 >>>Hiarcs8 A1200 23.5-20.5 CT15.0 K6450 26.5-15.5 DpFritz7 K6-2 26-16 >>>Fritz6 K6-450 33-11 Junior6 K6450 33.5-14.5 Nimzo 8 K6450 8-5 >>>SOS K6-2 450 39-6 Goliath K6450 33.5-10.5 >>> >>> 7 Hiarcs 9.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz, 2746 >>>Shr7.04 A1200 7-8 Junior8 A1200 11-17 Fritz 8 A1200 5.5-8.5 >>>Shredd7 K6450 9-5 Junior7 K6450 13-6 Fritz6 K6-450 8.5-4.5 >>>Junior6 K6450 31.5-14.5 Shred5 K6-450 34-12 Hiar732 K6450 12-2 >>> >> >>I do not see the point of testing a Deep version and a single version of a >>program on a single processor. >>IMO this is just a waste of time. >>You could have tested a strong amateur engine instead. >>Aristarch,List,Little Goliath or CLC for example. > >I agree that there is no reason to test both Deep version and single version >when they are the same engine. > > >> >>>There are three new entrants in this edition of >>>the SSDF rating list. Fortunately enough all three >>>have received clearly higher ratings than their >>>predecessors! >>> >>>The first program which we have tested is Amir Bans >>>and Shay Bushinskys Deep Junior 8.0 on a single >>>Athlon 1200 MHz. After 432 tournament games >>>against other programs, it has now a SSDF-rating of >>>2748. That is 49 points above it's predecessor >>>Junior 7.0, which appeared somewhat more than two years >>>ago. >>> >>>As perhaps can be understood from it's name, Deep Junior 8.0 >>>is primarily intended for PCs with several processors. When >>>used on a single processor, the search is said to be slowed >>>down about 5% compared to Junior 8.0, which we also have >>>tested. After 545 games Junior 8.0 Athlon 1200 MHz now >>>has a rating of 2784, 85 points more than Junior 7.0! >>> >>>The present rating difference between the single and >>>multiprocessor versions of Junior 8.0 is 36 points. The >>>slight speed difference between them should give only >>>3-4 rating points. If the programs otherwise play identically, >>>and that is what I have understood, the rest must be >>>attributed to statistical factors. >> >>No wonder >> >>Junior 8 did not play against Shredder 7.04 nor Shredder 7. >>It did not play against a Chesstiger version too. >> >>Instead it played 60 games against Shredder 5/5.32, 52 games agsinst the old >>Fritz 5.32 on inferior hardware and 62 games against the old Nimzo 7.32 >>on inferior hardware. >> >>Michael > >Why do you think that playing against weaker opponents mean bigger rating? The problem is not the weaker opponent. The problem is they play >60 games in some matches, 40 games in other matches and sometimes matches do not happen at all. 74 games against Fritz 8 and no games at all against Shredder 7 or Chesstiger. Is it a surprise that you get less valuable statistical results? Junior 8 is obviously very strong against Fritz 8. So it was lucky to play Fritz 8 that often. To play an equal number of games against all top programs is only fair. Michael > >It is often not the case and I remember that Junior5 lost rating from playing >against old Comet on inferior hardware. > >Uri
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