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Subject: Re: Dutch Open CC (1) results from Leiden(NL): Ruffian-Tiger draw

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 15:49:15 10/18/03

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On October 18, 2003 at 17:35:39, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On October 18, 2003 at 15:17:21, Jeroen Noomen wrote:
>
>>1.Nc3 Nf6 2.Nf3 d5
>>
>>HERE the King was out of book!
>
>why is the king chosing a line, where it is out of book itself meanwhile the
>opponent is still in the opening book  ?
>
>If you would be the operator, or the programmer, wouldn't you try out
>(if you choose to play 1.Nc3)
>how the commercial version of your opponnent PLAYS when you play 1.Nc3 ?
>this would be the first thing i would try on the hotel room.
>
>And - surprise surprise: rebel is still in book and would play...
>
>
>>3.d4 g6 4.Bf4 Bg7 5.e3 O-O 6.Be2 c5 7.dxc5 Nbd7
>
>>AND here Rebel was on its own.
>
>yes. O-O was expected.
>
>but surprise surprise, Nb5 comes. which forces the next moves.
>
>>8.Nb5 a6 9.Nc7 Ra7 10.Nxd5 Nxd5 11.Qxd5 Bxb2
>
>this is a really nice situation. black has no  chance to do anything.
>it can only RE-ACT.
>
>thats exactly how i would like to see it happen as white.
>
>
>
>12.O-O!?
>
>>Surprise, surprise!
>
>good programs see O-O.
>
>
>>Bxa1 13.Rxa1 Nf6?
>
>>THIS is wrong!!
>
>yes.
>
>
>
>> After 13 ... Qa5! 14.Bh6 Qxc5 15.Qxc5 Nxc5 16.Bxf8 Kxf8
>>black's position is OK. White is more active, but black has the better
>>pawn position. Equal I would say.
>>
>>14.Qe5 Be6 15.Bh6 Re8 16.Rd1 Qb8 17.Rd6!!
>>
>>BRILLIANT and probably already decisive! A typical King stroke.
>>
>>b5 18.Nd2! Bf5 19.g4 Rd7 20.gxf5 Rxd6
>>21.cxd6 Qxd6 22.Qxd6 exd6 23.c4 bxc4 24.Bxc4 d5 25.Bb3 Ne4 26.Nf3 Nc3
>>27.Nd4 a5 28.a4 Rb8 29.Nc6 Rb6 30.Ne7+ Kh8 31.Bxd5 gxf5 32.Bc6 f4
>>33.Bxf4 Ne2+ 34.Kg2 Nxf4+ 35.exf4 Rb8 36.Bb5 Ra8 37.Kf3 Kg7 38.Nc6 f6
>>39.Ke4 Kf7 40.Kd4 Ke6 41.Bd3 Kd6 42.h3 h6 43.Be2 Re8 44.Bb5 Ra8 45.Ke4 Ke6
>>46.Be2 f5+ 47.Kd4 Kf6 48.Bf3 Rc8 49.h4 Rc7 50.h5 Rd7+ 51.Kc3 Rc7 52.Kc4 Rb7
>>53.Nxa5 Rb2 54.Nc6 Rxf2 55.Ne5 Ra2 56.Bc6 Rf2 57.Nd3 Ra2 1-0
>>
>>>Why is Rebel playing the same line my commercial rebel plays ?
>>
>>Hm, you foresaw the line 1.Nc3 Nf6 2.Nf3 coming?!
>
>2.Nf6 is in rebel12 commercial-book.
>it's very easy to find out.
>buy it.
>input Nc3 and look how commercial rebel would have played !
>not much intelligence needed to find out.

>if you would play against a program 1.Nc3, wouldn't you try it out
>before you play a game in a tournament what this program plays IF you do ??

You are just angry Rebel lost, that's okay :) it's not okay to blame it on
Jeroen. Blame Rebel for 13..Nf6?

Ed





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