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Subject: Re: Help with this interesting position?

Author: James Robertson

Date: 10:34:57 11/09/98

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On November 09, 1998 at 02:04:27, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>On November 07, 1998 at 15:18:26, James Robertson wrote:
>
>>On November 07, 1998 at 01:14:10, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On November 06, 1998 at 20:07:39, James Robertson wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 06, 1998 at 14:31:41, blass uri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On November 06, 1998 at 13:47:22, blass uri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 06, 1998 at 01:43:43, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On November 06, 1998 at 00:26:37, James Robertson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The following position was reachied in a blitz game between Exchess 2.49 and
>>>>>>>>SSEChess 2.01:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>4rrk1/ppp2pp1/2qp3p/2n5/2P1PQ1B/3P4/P1P3PP/R4RK1 w - -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Exchess played Qf2 and won about 30 moves later, but I thought that maybe Bf6
>>>>>>>>would be an irresistible sacrifice for a computer program.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>After 1. Bf6 gxf6 2. Qxh6, I don't see any way Black can win:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2. ... Nd5 3. Rf3 Ng5 4. Rg3 d5 5. h4 Qd6 6. Kh2 Qe5 7. hxg6 fxg6 8. Qxg6+ Qxg6
>>>>>>>>9. Rxg6+ Kh7 10. cxd5 (evaluated -2.15 for Black by Crafty)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2. ... Nd7 3. Rf3 (And Black can't stop Rg3)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I ran Crafty on it.  Here's what I got after 1.Bf6 gxf6 2.Qxh6:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>2. ... Ne6 3. Rab1 Qc5+ 4. Rf2 Nd4 5. Rxb7 Rb8 6. Rxb8 Rxb8 7. g4 Qg5 8. Qh3
>>>>>>>Rb1+ 9. Kg2 Rb2 (Eval: -1.6 for white)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>3.Rab1 is  not good and Junior5 prefered 3.Rf3 with the idea to play after
>>>>>>3...Ng5 4.Kh1
>>>>>
>>>>>Junior5 prefer after some minutes 4.Rf4 and white is winning
>>>>>I think that 2...Ne6 is a losing mistake for black
>>>>
>>>>I can't think of any other move for Black other than 2. ... Ne6. Is there a
>>>>better move?
>>>>
>>>>James
>>>
>>>
>>>2...Nxe4(Junior5's move) is better and after it 3.dxe4 Qc5+ Kh1 Qg5 is one
>>>option.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Ok..... That makes sense. White is left with destroyed pawns, and his attack is
>>over.
>>
>>James
>
>Last couple plies run from Crafty
>
> 16-> 1331:21   0.45   2. ... Nxe4 3. dxe4 Rxe4 4. Rxf6 Rg4
>                      5. Rf2 Qxc4 6. Qe3 a6 7. c3 d5 8. Re1
>                      Re4 9. Qg5+ Kh7 10. Ref1 Qc5 11. Qh5+
>                      Kg7 12. Qg5+ Kh8
> 17-> 3294:19   0.41   2. ... Nxe4 3. dxe4 Rxe4 4. Qxf6 Qc5+
>                      5. Kh1 Qe5 6. Qf2 Rxc4 7. Rae1 Qg5
>                      8. Re2 c5 9. Rb1 b5 10. Rbe1 Rf4 11.
>                      Qe3
>
>White is still winning, but not by a lot.  I'll let it run some more, to see
>what happens (if anything).
>
>Jeremiah

Ok..... blass uri said that Junior 5 came to the same conclusion, that 2. ...
Nxe4 was the only way to survive.

James



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