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Subject: Re: Two Old Deep Thought games

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:31:49 11/09/98

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On November 09, 1998 at 12:41:08, Howard Exner wrote:

>On November 09, 1998 at 08:43:59, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On November 08, 1998 at 21:40:03, Howard Exner wrote:
>>
>>>Even in 1988-89 Deep Thought had lots of hardware advantage over its micro
>>>challengers. Here are two games that DT lost. I wonder how that machine then
>>>would do now?
>>>
>>>Who were the programmers of Mephisto and Plymate?
>>>The plymate game looks a bit odd to be a 40/2 encounter. Does anyone have info
>>>on the time control for that game?
>>>
>>
>>
>>Game 2 never happened.  Don't know where it came from, or who posted it where
>>it was found, but that game was never played, at least at any ACM or WCCC
>>event.
>
>I downloaded it from the the DeepThought collection at that big games site
>from the University of Pittsburgh.
>
> The Mephisto game was the *only* game at an ACM or WCCC event that was
>>lost by DT to a micro-based program.  Deep Blue "prototype" also lost a game
>>to Fritz in Hong Kong.
>>
>>But remember that during the period 1989-1994, when they played, they played
>>at least 5 games every year an sometimes 10 (when ACM and WCCC were both held
>>in the same year.)  They lost two out of (lower bound) 50 games.  You tell
>>me what the Elo system would say there?  nearly +500 rating points?
>>
>>I'll try to figure out who plymate's opponent was as I have most game
>>bulletins from these events. But it certainly wasn't DT...
>
>It could have been some typo error.
>
>Something I would be interested in would be a book by Hsu and company
>on the entire Deep Thought/Blue project. Not just the technical stuff
>but any and all information on its conception, struggles, their comments
>on its games,anecdotes ... the works.

You won't have long to wait...  he's been working on it for a while
now...

Bob



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