Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 11:34:38 11/09/98
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On November 09, 1998 at 08:59:10, blass uri wrote: > >On November 09, 1998 at 08:43:59, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On November 08, 1998 at 21:40:03, Howard Exner wrote: >> >>>Even in 1988-89 Deep Thought had lots of hardware advantage over its micro >>>challengers. Here are two games that DT lost. I wonder how that machine then >>>would do now? >>> >>>Who were the programmers of Mephisto and Plymate? >>>The plymate game looks a bit odd to be a 40/2 encounter. Does anyone have info >>>on the time control for that game? >>> >>>[Event "?"] >>>[Site "North American Compu"] >>>[Date "1989.01.01"] >>>[Round "?"] >>>[White "COMP Mephisto"] >>>[Black "COMP Deep Thought"] >>>[Result "1-0"] >>>[WhiteElo "?"] >>>[BlackElo "?"] >>>[ECO "D25"] >>> >>>1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. e3 Bg4 5. Bxc4 e6 6. h3 Bh5 7. Nc3 Nbd7 >>>8. g4 Bg6 9. Nh4 Be4 10. Nxe4 Nxe4 11. Nf3 Nd6 12. Bb3 Qe7 13. Bd2 h5 14. >>>Rg1 hxg4 15. hxg4 O-O-O 16. Ba5 b6 17. Bb4 a5 18. Bxd6 Qxd6 19. Qc2 Be7 >>>20. O-O-O Rh3 21. Nd2 c6 22. Rh1 Rdh8 23. Rxh3 Rxh3 24. Ne4 Qc7 25. Kb1 >>>g5 26. Rc1 Kb7 27. Ba4 Nb8 28. Nd2 Qd7 29. Bb3 Na6 30. Qe4 Nb4 31. a3 Nd5 >>>32. Qg2 Rh8 33. Ne4 f6 34. Qg3 Rg8 35. Rh1 f5 36. gxf5 exf5 37. Qh3 Rf8 >>>38. Nd2 Bf6 39. Qh7 Rf7 40. Qh6 Qe6 41. Qg6 Rg7 42. Rh7 Rxh7 43. Qxh7+ >>>Be7 44. Kc1 Kc7 45. Nf3 Kd8 46. Ne5 g4 47. Qh8+ Kc7 48. Kd2 Kb7 49. Nxc6 >>>Qxc6 50. Qe5 Nc7 51. Qxe7 Qg2 52. Qh4 f4 53. exf4 Qe4 54. Qxg4 Qxd4+ 55. >>>Kc1 Qxf2 56. Qf5 Qf3 57. Kc2 Kc6 58. Qe5 Nd5 59. Qe6+ Kc5 60. Bxd5 Qxd5 >>>61. Qxd5+ Kxd5 62. Kd3 a4 63. Kc3 Kc5 64. f5 1-0 >>> >>>[Event "?"] >>>[Site "9+6 (V.1.1 Mega 2)"] >>>[Date "1988.01.01"] >>>[Round "?"] >>>[White "COMP Deep Thought"] >>>[Black "COMP Plymate"] >>>[Result "0-1"] >>>[WhiteElo "?"] >>>[BlackElo "?"] >>>[ECO "D52"] >>> >>>1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Nbd7 5. e3 c6 6. Nf3 Qa5 7. Nd2 Bb4 >>>8. Qc2 O-O 9. Be2 dxc4 10. Bxf6 Nxf6 11. Nxc4 Bxc3+ 12. Kf1 Qd5 13. Qxc3 >>>b5 14. Ne5 Bb7 15. Qc2 Qe4 16. Bd3 Qd5 17. f4 Rfc8 18. Kg1 c5 19. Bxb5 >>>cxd4 20. Bc4 Rxc4 21. Nxc4 d3 22. Qd2 Qxc4 23. b4 Nd5 24. Rd1 Nxb4 25. >>>a3 Qe4 26. Rb1 Nc2 27. Rb3 Qxe3+ 28. Qxe3 Nxe3 29. Kf2 Bd5 30. Rxd3 Nc4 >>>31. Re1 f5 32. Rb3 Kf7 33. Rc1 Ke7 34. Kg3 Kd6 35. h4 e5 36. fxe5+ Nxe5 >>>37. Re3 Rf8 38. Rf1 Nc4 39. Rd3 Kc5 40. Rb3 a5 41. Kh3 f4 42. Rc3 Kd4 43. >>>Rc2 Be6+ 44. Kh2 Ne3 45. Rd2+ Kc3 46. Rfd1 Nxd1 47. Rxd1 f3 48. gxf3 Rxf3 >>>49. Re1 Bd5 50. Re7 Rf7 51. Re2 Kd4 52. Rd2+ Ke4 53. Re2+ Kf3 54. Re5 Rd7 >>>55. Kh3 g6 56. a4 Be4 57. Kh2 Rd2+ 58. Kg1 Rg2+ 59. Kf1 Ra2 60. Kg1 Kf4 >>>61. Rxe4+ Kxe4 0-1 >> >> >>Game 2 never happened. Don't know where it came from, or who posted it where >>it was found, but that game was never played, at least at any ACM or WCCC >>event. The Mephisto game was the *only* game at an ACM or WCCC event that was >>lost by DT to a micro-based program. Deep Blue "prototype" also lost a game >>to Fritz in Hong Kong. >> >>But remember that during the period 1989-1994, when they played, they played >>at least 5 games every year an sometimes 10 (when ACM and WCCC were both held >>in the same year.) They lost two out of (lower bound) 50 games. You tell >>me what the Elo system would say there? nearly +500 rating points? > >I cannot tell from this information because I do not know how many games they >drew(I know only that Deep Blue did a draw against wchess but i do not know >about the results of most of the games) > >Uri They lost to two micros total during 1988-1995 at computer chess events. One to Mephisto, one to Fritz in Hong Kong. They may have drawn another 2-3, out of maybe 70 games total... that is frightening...
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