Author: Theo van der Storm
Date: 11:03:11 10/20/03
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On October 20, 2003 at 04:54:33, Uri Blass wrote: >On October 20, 2003 at 03:54:03, Andreas Schwartmann wrote: > >>On October 19, 2003 at 17:32:40, Theo van der Storm wrote: >> >>> >>>You missed the point completely. >>>Look what happened in the 5th round: >>> >>>All three Lokasoft programmes won >>>and look what happened to the competition: >>>Ruffian and Diep each played a draw. >>>The King and IsiChess MMX lost. >> >>So what? It's like having Boris Becker playing a tennis tournament with you and >>me and Thorsten Czub. Boris would easily win against all of us. Would you then >>also say "Boris Becker is back!"? > >No > >It is clearly not the same. > >You have no chance against Boris Becker but Ruffian,Isichess,Diep and the king >are not engines without chances against Rebel,Tiger or Deep Sjeng. > >Even if you look at it only as a commercial competition >chessbase is not the only company in the world and >the company that sells chessmaster is also competing against Loaksoft. > >Do not forget also that part of the private engines may become commercial >and not as loaksoft engines so they are also comepting. > > >> >>This is ridiculous. You put some strong Lokasoft engines in a tourney with the >>world elite absent, these engines happen to win against such nobodys as Isichess >>or Diep and then you say "Lokasoft returns!". > >Isichess and Diep are not nobody. > >Diep drew in the past in tournaments even against Fritz and Shredder so it >is not something that chessbase engines can be sure of winning against it. > >Isichess is also not a weak engine that you can be sure of winning. > >Why do you try to belittle the opponents? >They may be 100 elo or 200 elo weaker but it does not mean that a win against >them is obvious. > > > I bet, these Lokasoft engines >>would not have performed so well against Fritz, Hiarcs, Shredder and Junior. >> >>Andreas > >Chessbase is not competing in this tournament so I do not see a reason why do >you insist on talking about chessbase. > >Chessbase could participate and chose not to do it but even in case that the >tournament was a tournament that chessbase could not participate there is no >reason to be against saying some good word about loaksoft engines based on >result because they still compete against other non chessbase engines. > >Uri Uri, Thanks. You got the point almost completely. I can only add the following: The start of this thread (Dutch Open CC (5) results from Leiden(NL) ...) was about round 5 results, nothing more. Before round 5 the three programs occupied ranks 2+6+7 = 15 and everybody was a point behind the leader. After round 5 they occupied ranks 2+3+4 = 9 and they were all only half a point behind the leader and behind them there was half a point gap with the rest of the field. Wow, exciting tournament! Theo
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