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Subject: Re: Rebel - IsiChess: Some notes

Author: Gerd Isenberg

Date: 12:03:21 10/20/03

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On October 20, 2003 at 14:25:33, Alexander Kure wrote:

>On October 20, 2003 at 10:47:23, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On October 20, 2003 at 04:32:09, Jeroen Noomen wrote:
>>
>>>[Event "23rd DOCC"]
>>>[Site "Leiden NED"]
>>>[Date "2003.10.19"]
>>>[Round "5"]
>>>[White "Rebel"]
>>>[Black "IsiChess MMX"]
>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>[PlyCount "69"]
>>>[EventDate "2003.??.??"]
>>>
>>>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Be7
>>>
>>>Woops, is IsiChess going to repeat the Tiger-Fritz game from the Leiden
>>>tournament in May 2003!?
>>>
>>>8. Qf3 Qc7 9. O-O-O Nbd7 10. g4 b5 11. Bxf6 Nxf6 12. g5 Nd7 13. f5 Nc5 14. f6
>>>gxf6 15. gxf6 Bf8 16. Rg1 b4?
>>>
>>>No, it isn't! But the textmove is already a clear loser.
>>
>>Clear
>>
>>It is not clear for me.
>
>[..]
>
>
>Dear Uri,
>
>It is clear to me. This line ist lost. Neither 19...Qa5 nor 19...0-0-0 nor
>18...Nd7 will prevent black from loosing.
>It is all theory! The fact, that you don't know the theory of this line does not
>imply that it is not clear.
>You can check all the lines in the Rebel, Tiger or even Fritz books. It is all
>there.
>Some years ago - I think it was also in Leiden - Diep also lost in that
>variation against Fritz. Poor Diep played 19...0-0-0 but this could not prevent
>him from loosing.
>Amazing that in some books 16...b4? is still being played.
>
>Greetings
>Alex

Hi Alex,

i don't remember when entering this line.

I started with book cooking in about 95 by using several paper sources. Since 96
or so i also imported pgn-games with go to "novelty" so far, i analysed a bit
and decided by myself whether i extend the book and the probability to play. I
stopped extensive working on the book short after my short professional career
in 97.

Possible that the b4 line was considered Ok during this time?
When does "Theory" found all the refutation lines?

Unfortunately this line never came up in other events or in the few testgames
with my new program since 2001.

But doesn't even professional programs with professional book authors stumble
over new theory, most likely in important events?

Regards,
Gerd



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