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Subject: Re: Deep Blue and the

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:11:48 11/09/98

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On November 09, 1998 at 15:47:31, odell hall wrote:

>
>On November 09, 1998 at 13:50:11, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>
>>On November 09, 1998 at 12:39:46, odell hall wrote:
>>
>>>You are exactly right! If the match did in fact happen why haven't they
>>>published the games? The kasparov match is over so they can't fear that kasparov
>>>will see the games. What other possible motivation for not revealing the games
>>>other than that it never occured!!
>>
>>If this thread is going to start up again, please let it not go down this
>>particular path.
>>
>>When you say that match never occurred, you are saying that a particular person,
>>namely Murray Campbell, lied to me when I asked him about this match after a
>>lecture.  You are also saying that Feng Hsu lied to Bob in email between those
>>two.
>>
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>
>
>I am not accusing anyone of lying, I was not aware that feng hu personally told
>bob hyatt about the match results. Still the question has yet to be answered why
>haven't the games been revealed? This is a very simple question, If such a match
>between deepblue and the micro's did in fact occur it is a tremendously
>important event and should be published!
>


Hsu told me about this privately.  He and Murray both have discussed this at
a couple of presentations they have given since the DB match.  however I doubt
they will say much here as it would only take a word by one of them to get the
personal attacks going like crazy, by those that "hate big iron."

>
>>Whatever you think about IBM or Deep Blue or any of the rest of this, these guys
>>don't deserve to be accused of lying.
>>
>>I think discussion of those games will be fruitless because we don't have them,
>>and the details surrounding how they were played are still fuzzy.  Any
>>conclusions drawn from them are only minimally useful in my pesonal opinion.
>>
>>The only thing worse than making conclusions from these games is making
>>conclusions out of thin air, which is the alternative.
>>
>>Fact is that the obvious questions about how DB would do against micros can't be
>>answered.  It is only possible to speculate.
>>
>>bruce



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